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  •  He obviously meant Orwell (1+ / 0-)
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    Mentatmark

    But child propaganda is Goebell-ian.... and to deny this is silly.  Look, I understand that people get all knee-jerky about the use of any reference to WWII - but what is being done to my child certainly is comparable.

    The kids here really come out of it hating people of Arab descent and worked into a Nationalistic furor.

    What better comparison is there?

    •  No, it's not comparable (3+ / 0-)
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      Dr Swig Mcjigger, shmuelman, Wee Mama

      Because, as you noted, it didn't work on your kid, and we don't have a nation of children who are trying to kill all Muslims.

      You minimize the Holocaust, and that's offensive.

    •  Strictly speaking Goebbles' concern was adults ... (3+ / 0-)
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      Diane Gee, Wee Mama, Mentatmark

      propagandizing to children was more the province of another fellow: Balder von Shirach. ...

      Hitler himself, ( Heinrich Himmler also)  took a lively and personal  interest in fostering Nazi values among their young people ... but both would have to  acknowledge a debt to the Christian <em>Proverbs 22:6 -- not to mention Lord Bayden-Powell's Scouting  Movement

      The question is:  how does one go about saying a bad thing is a bad thing without composing a long boring essay on Badness complete with hyperlinks and footnotes, when Nazi references are ruled out-of-bounds.

      Of course one can find earlier examples of similar business-friendly, hyper-nationalist thinking:  Henry Ford HG Wells for examples ... but all of those, in the fullness of time have become Exemplars of Virtue in the American hagiography ...  leaving "Nazis" or a host of ancient and obscure Bad Guys that most people neither remember, nor think were particularly "bad" -- especially as compared to Nazis.

      The person who dreamed up "Never Trust Anyone Over 30"  splitting the Old Left from the New has a lot to answer for ... but the promulgators of Godwin's Law -- probably a whole lot more.

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