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  •  You may detest Bibi's political views or indeed (0+ / 0-)

    anything else about him.  But he is the elected head of government of a parliamentary democracy.  Make your point by sticking to facts.

    Where are we, now that we need us most?

    by Frank Knarf on Tue Sep 11, 2012 at 12:45:16 PM PDT

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    •  What on earth are you talking about? (6+ / 0-)

      What "facts" did I not stick to? It's not his decision alone to attack Iran, both legally and effectively. And the "quasi-dictarorial leader of a pariah state" line was a throwaway to an obviously remote and unlikely but still not completely impossible scenario that applies as much to the US as Israel.

      Put in terms you can perhaps better understand, it's not Bibi's decision alone to attack Iran given what you yourself wrote above about the sort of government Israel has, and the only way it could become his decision alone is if such a remote scenario unfolded, which is unlikely.

      As for a group decision by Israel's top political and military leaders to attack Iran, which is the only likely way that could happen, I suspect that there's simply not enough support for that in Israel's leadership given Obama's apparent opposition to such an attack.

      Of course, I could be wrong, but not because I supposedly don't know what kind of government Israel has. Sheesh.

      "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

      by kovie on Tue Sep 11, 2012 at 01:10:44 PM PDT

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    •  He is. And if he (as the elected head of a (1+ / 0-)
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      sovereign state) decides that attacking Iran is something he needs to do, I will hope that that catastrophe resolves itself with as few casualties as is possible.

      But I would certainly hope and expect that the United States lets that play out as it may, without supporting either side in that presumptive idiocy at all.

      IMO, kovie is right in worrying that Bibi may have (sloppily, I think) concluded that he can railroad President Obama into jumping in to support an Israeli attack on Iran before the election.  I don't actually think that he would do that, but it's certainly conceivable that Bibi would imagine that he would.  And that's the danger, isn't it?

      Kovie's comment is completely within the universe of the factual.

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