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    auron renouille, Deep Texan

    You mean the George Wallace who was the Democratic nominee for Governor of Alabama in 1962, 1970, 1974, and 1982, having failed in the Democratic primary in 1958?  The George Wallace who ran for President as a Democrat in 1972 and 1976, being a delegate at the 1948 Democratic Convention? Surprisingly he didn't join Thurmond's Dixiecrats and campaigned for Truman, something he repudiated later when he was the most famous bigot in the country.  (FWIW, the purists of the day worked for Henry Wallace's campaign.)  

    The point is that the center of gravity in the Democratic Party, in its entirety, has never been more to the left than it is right now.  The rose colored past of Mario Cuomo's speech that you idolize? Do you realize that he was talking to an audience that had Richard Shelby and and John Stennis in it?  I see the repudiation of that past as progress.  When it comes to the the history of the Democratic Party, you frankly appear to be ignorant or willfully obtuse.  I don't care to discern the difference.  

    Note to self, stop before I emulate the habits described in this diary.

    by Rustbelt Dem on Thu Sep 13, 2012 at 09:30:57 PM PDT

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      according to biographers Dan T. Carter and Stephan Lesher. Not exactly the bastion of liberalism or what represents the what we know as Democratic party back(when the New Deal and executive order 8802 was a reality despite having to deal with Dixecrats) then or today. He never supported Truman's fair deal which led Dixiecrats to start leaving the party(all gone by the time the civil rights acts were a reality) an he did become one of the biggest bigots in the country when he left the party. However Wallace ran as an Independent in 1968. oops. Before that he stood against JFK's integration orders. It was later disclosed that Wallace proposed at the meeting with Martin to switch parties if he could be named as Goldwater's running-mate in 1964. he was well gone before being technically gone. It's not a smart comparison at all to the New Deal Great Society civil rights Democratic party I'm referring to.

      No the Democratic party has moved to the right economically and on labor issues. Do you realize it was the Democratic party that passed welfare reform and DOMA? By some metrics even the Republican party has moved to the left on civil rights which housed many Dixiecrats who left the Democratic party over the fair deal and LBJ pushing for the civil rights acts. The African American community has been sold out and hurt the most by the neoliberlaism espoused by the politicians you make excuses for, but at least now I know what you mean by the left. Yeah, technically Senator Byrd was in Obama's Democratic party even though he changed, but I guess by technicality that makes Obama in a bigoted party as well.

      the past I idolize in Mario Cuomo's speech was a party that cared about people and not all about Wall St like the president you make excuses for. there are still conservative Democrats to this day in the Senate and House every time Obama makes a speech. The rubric you used is an obtuse one and the context form which you refer to it is badly misused to pretend this modern third way Democratic party is to the left. The housing crisis you ignore spells this out.

      ‎A) "Bipartisan usually means that a larger-than-usual deception is being carried out." - George Carlin B) "The administration should be worried about the level of despair here." ~Markos Moulitsas at NN12

      by priceman on Thu Sep 13, 2012 at 10:10:39 PM PDT

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