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  •  Good, a short-term strike, union victory = positiv (33+ / 0-)

    Rahm seems to have badly miscalculated.  He needs to go in 2015, what a dick.

    My wife is a teacher here in VA.  She has an immigrant girl from China that literally spoke 1 word of English on Day 1 "Hi". She has a student with a profound learning disability (that does have a FT tutor helping him in the class, but still). She has a student that breaks out crying from time to time, as the child is a recovering abuse victim. It's my wife's fault if these kids don't pass a test in May?

    My wife is not only a teacher, but has a second degree in early childhood education, and is a Level 3 Educational Therapist with the National Institute of Learning Disabilities. In addition to teaching, she is taking a class herself in order to keep up her skills and learn new ways to reach kids with learning difficulties.

    As one of the sign-holders signs say - she works a good 12 hour day, and spends a good 4 hours or more prepping on Saturday or Sunday in her classroom.

    And as people have noted - she has had years where all the kids did pass the test, years where many of the kids jumped 2 grade levels or more in their reading, writing and math abilities. She is routinely praised by the 6th grade teachers for how well learned and ready her 5th grade graduates are.

    But, there are years when all the kids don't pass. Years where parents don't listen or care, where some kids don't do a lick of homework. Kids who she can barely keep awake in class because they've been allowed to watch TV all night. Kids who do try, to whom she gives extra help, promotes IEP standards to help the kid succeed and it all just doesn't happen.

    C'mon Chicago, help the teachers succeed, and they will help the children of Chicago succeed.

    Liberalism is trust of the people tempered by prudence. Conservatism is distrust of the people tempered by fear. ~William E. Gladstone, 1866

    by absdoggy on Thu Sep 13, 2012 at 08:38:44 AM PDT

    •  I just hate that our country is filled with (13+ / 0-)

      entitled people who brainwash the public into hating teachers for their own greedy/ideological ends.

      Teachers, on the whole, are some of the most generous, caring and hard-working people in the world.

      The trumped-up anti-teacher media campaign is particularly sickening.

      •  My daughter lives in Chicago... (17+ / 0-)

        ....apparently this morning she witnessed a very heated argument between a CTA bus driver and a passenger who was bashing the teachers. It turned into a "whole bus" debate with most of the passengers backing the driver (and the teachers). The passenger who was arguing against the teachers was a young female yuppie and her comment that turned it into a "no you didn't" moment was when she said that teachers shouldn't expect to make a lot of money because they were "helping people." If this is the attitude of Rahm supporters, it's easy to understand why public opinion is turning against them.

        •  The opposite of John F. Kennedy's line, "Ask not (7+ / 0-)

          what your country can do for you, but what can you do for your country." It sounds like that yuppie is a very selfish, ignorant person and I am glad the bus driver told her how he felt. Some people just don't care about kids. But the thing is, the kids of today are our leaders tomorrow. Sounds cliche, but it is the truth.

        •  Typ Clownservative Approach, Which (0+ / 0-)

          unfortunately many "democrats" agree with.

          but this is all academic folks; our nation has become a disgrace, really.

          latest studies show enormous poverty problems.. child poverty is wayyyy up. 800,000 people in August simply gave up looking for work-- because there's nothing there for them

          the 50 year effort by the One Percent to smash the New Deal is succeeding.. mainly because we've all been "too busy" to notice, or to care, apparently

          "A civilization which does not provide young people with a way to earn a living is pretty poor". Eleanor Roosevelt

          by Superpole on Fri Sep 14, 2012 at 04:12:45 AM PDT

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      •  Blaming teachers for poverty (2+ / 0-)
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        and the elite's refusal to pay taxes and fund public education. The physical condition of our public schools is shameful. Schools around here, in relativelly well-off Western MA have leaking roofs, no auditoriums, few libraries or librarians, and have been cutting back on recess, phys ed, music and art. It is shameful that poor and middle-class children are bearing the brunt of tax cuts for the wealthy. It makes me sick.

        Meanwhile, no one is working for improved jobs programs, higher pay for low-wage workers, let alone a living wage.

        So many kids are in families that are stressed out by poverty and hunger.

        Meanwhile politicians keep bragging about this being "the greatest country on earth."

        Yeah, maybe for Mitt Romney it is, while he keeps his $ in the Caymans and Switzerland.

        Skepticism of all the elite institutions, not trust, is what required for successful leadership in this era. Digby

        by coral on Thu Sep 13, 2012 at 06:44:36 PM PDT

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        •  I often came to school beaten, hungry, and angry. (1+ / 0-)
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          No teacher could get me to do anything I didn't want to do. All my concentration was on the bad movies in my head. No teacher deserved to be fired because I couldn't be taught. And many tried to help me.

          I can't stand to hear teachers denigrated by billionaire self appointed education experts.

          You teachers are some real beautiful people.

      •  What is particularly sickening (0+ / 0-)

        is the fact Paul Ryan agrees with Rahmbo on this.

        see the DISconnect here?

        and numerous democrats are on board with totally privatizing the public school system.

        weak, very weak.

        "A civilization which does not provide young people with a way to earn a living is pretty poor". Eleanor Roosevelt

        by Superpole on Fri Sep 14, 2012 at 04:09:07 AM PDT

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    •  On top of that (8+ / 0-)

      our administration doesn't even think they need to be in class.

      Now that the four week shuffle is over (around 50% of my students are the same ones I started out with at the beginning of school  and we have a new grading system that erases grades when students are switched from one class to another.  Of course we're never notified, let alone consulted when they take students out of our classes, so you don't have a chance to print out their grades before they disappear) they are starting to take them out every day for field trips, conferences, assemblies, and various and assorted dog and pony shows.  And testing testing testing.

      We have a library, but it is in use as a testing center most of the year.  All the laptop carts are in use by the testing coaches.  Now they want to take the few computers we have in our rooms and use those for testing, too.

      People outside of the ed biz don't have a clue what modern education has become.  You'd think it would be obvious to anyone that that there's no point in testing students over what they've never been taught because instructional time is cut back more and more every year so they can do more testing.  But of course, apparatchiks don't think.  The testing coaches naturally want to preserve their jobs -- it's much easier than being in a classroom.  The testing companies want to keep on making their profits.  That's all it's about anymore.

      Light is seen through a small hole.

      by houyhnhnm on Thu Sep 13, 2012 at 05:52:29 PM PDT

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