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  •  Where I stopped reading was: (1+ / 0-)
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    I'm not a slut but at 62 I've had enough sex partners to have some awareness of reality.
    So how many sex partners does a woman need to have before she's a slut? I completely reject this framing. Do we really have to define our sexuality in 'male' terms?
    •  Get over it. I'll match my feminist (0+ / 0-)

      credentials against any here. The point I was trying to make is that I DO have some experience--and the person to whom I was responding is the sort who DOES seem to see things in male terms.

      The last time we mixed religion and politics people got burned at the stake.

      by irishwitch on Sat Sep 15, 2012 at 01:54:02 PM PDT

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      •  My comment (1+ / 0-)
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        was not an attack on your feminist credentials but on your framing of female sexuality. I understood your point and the fact that you took this as an attack on your feminist credentials is a failure to communicate properly on my part. We all could do with confronting and rejecting the way we have socialised and internalised norms about our sexuality.  The point is that in that sentence, you were participating in rather than rejecting male-centric views about the expression of female sexuality and women's sexual choices and by doing so, reinforcing and legitimising those views. You were also reinforcing the views of one faction of Assange's supporters who attack and denigrate the 2 women who are accusing Assange by calling them, among other things, sluts.

      •  You are mistaken. (0+ / 0-)

        I have some experience myself and because of that this is advice I give my kids, because right or wrong is meaningless at the moment you are holding a broken injured soul.  I would rather keep them safe in a harsh world, and believe me, I know how harsh and ugly that can be, and how long the wounds take to heal into scars.  I think your anecdote actually supports my statement. Of course it was rape, although as your ASA pointed out, somewhat hard to prosecute. It would be better if she were not raped, but that's not what happened, because some guy was a dirt bag.

        I  conclude that some people are total dirt bags and not to be trusted and sometimes it's hard to tell who they are.  That's not a male point of view.  It's the point of view of many many victims of rape.

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