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  •  The last epic spasm of real violence involving (1+ / 0-)
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    the west ended just as the first nuclear weapons were developed.  We will not survive another round of global, ideologically driven total war.

    The tide of pomo relativism has receded somewhat, but lasting damage has been done, not just to history but to all of the major humanities disciplines.  I'm not one to defend the old status quo unreservedly, but we who are left of center politically need to be alert to the agendas of certain neo-Marxist ideologues who justify almost any distortion when attacking the liberal western edifice.

    Some reading:

    Fear of Knowledge: Against Relativism and Constructivism, Paul Boghossian

    Telling the Truth about History, Joyce Appleby, Lynn Hunt, Margaret Jacob

    Signs of the Times: Deconstruction and the Fall of Paul de Man, David Lehman

    Where are we, now that we need us most?

    by Frank Knarf on Sun Sep 16, 2012 at 07:26:32 AM PDT

    •  Nuclear Weapons (1+ / 0-)
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      I also doubt we're going to win in the effort to keep nuclear weapons out of the hands of other countries. Being in the "nuclear club" has become a sign of power and prestige: it's an implied threat.

      Part of our panic over terrorism is that the existence of nuclear weapons means some day someone is going to use them.

      Bilateral treaties and International organizations are basically the only thing we can do about this, but I doubt it will be enough.

      Le nirvane n'existe pas. - Etienne Lamotte

      by breakingranks on Sun Sep 16, 2012 at 09:10:50 AM PDT

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      •  We have managed to persuade some countries that (1+ / 0-)
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        could easily and rapidly develop nuclear weapons not to do so, by explicitly guaranteeing their security.  If Japan, South Korea, Germany, Australia, Canada or a number of others ever conclude that the US can't be trusted to act in their interests during a crisis...

        Outside of our security orbit I fear you are justified in your pessimism.

        Where are we, now that we need us most?

        by Frank Knarf on Sun Sep 16, 2012 at 09:35:02 AM PDT

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        •  One country at a time (0+ / 0-)

          For every country we form a security pact with - another country could just disrupt the whole thing by hurling their own nukes. Then we have obligations to get involved, just like the domino effect in World War I.

          And then there are all the people with apocalyptic One World Government conspiracy theories who will always be working to undermine whatever semblance of collective security we achieve.

          Le nirvane n'existe pas. - Etienne Lamotte

          by breakingranks on Sun Sep 16, 2012 at 12:28:33 PM PDT

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          •  So we walk up to the question of what to do. (1+ / 0-)
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            Rely on deterrence and containment in all cases?  Or are there instances in which preemptive force is justified?  Which set of risks is worse depends on specific perceptions and specific realities.

            Where are we, now that we need us most?

            by Frank Knarf on Sun Sep 16, 2012 at 07:33:07 PM PDT

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    •  Well, the last spasm of violence between (1+ / 0-)
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      western countries.  There has been plenty of violence perpetrated by the west since then.

      The revolution will not be televised. But it will be blogged, a lot. Probably more so than is necessary.

      by AoT on Sun Sep 16, 2012 at 04:31:47 PM PDT

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