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  •  Their inclusion of the homeopathy study (1+ / 0-)
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    inexcusable.

    •  Why? (4+ / 0-)
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      Chrisfs, chimpy, melfunction, Praxical

      If a researcher sets out to prove homeopathy doesn't work - but gets results that don't support what they're trying to prove and they can't find any errors in their work - they're doing it right.

      It doesn't mean the homeopaths are necessarily right - just that we don't know as much as we think we do, and more work is necessary.

      Failure is just as important to doing science as success. Data is data and we now have more of it.

      "No special skill, no standard attitude, no technology, and no organization - no matter how valuable - can safely replace thought itself."

      by xaxnar on Sun Sep 16, 2012 at 09:00:25 PM PDT

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      •  Yes, it means science is hard work (2+ / 0-)
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        It means that methods are not easy, and seemingly unrelated effects can affect your results. In that Belfast study, something must have been missed in the preparation or application. Finding that something might lead to new guidelines on material handling or glassware cleaning, so weird results are usually worth checking into.

        Why is there a Confederate Flag flying in Afghanistan?

        by chimpy on Mon Sep 17, 2012 at 10:09:03 AM PDT

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        •  Remember those fast neutrinos? (2+ / 0-)
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          Turned out to be a hardware issue. They were embarrassed, but they got it sorted out eventually. They didn't try to fudge the results.

          "No special skill, no standard attitude, no technology, and no organization - no matter how valuable - can safely replace thought itself."

          by xaxnar on Mon Sep 17, 2012 at 10:22:25 AM PDT

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          •  Yeah, that took some guts. (3+ / 0-)
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            They pre-released some data with some pretty revolutionary implications. But, they weren't making a claim as to those implications, just opening up their methods and their state of debugging and asking for help.

            So, end result is they get some help with their specific particle stimulus and data acquisition methods, and everyone else gets an education on the overall Scientific Method.

            Why is there a Confederate Flag flying in Afghanistan?

            by chimpy on Mon Sep 17, 2012 at 10:33:08 AM PDT

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