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  •  A vote for a Presidential Green candidate (5+ / 0-)

    is, functionally speaking, a vote for the Republicans in a tight state. Barack Obama is far from perfect, but anybody who believes that a Romney administration would be better on civil liberties, foreign policy, economic, environmental, banking and financial regulation, and Supreme Court issues is either delusional in the extreme or indifferent to the actual real suffering that will result from a Republican win. Just as Ralph Nader was indifferent to the suffering that was going to occur with a Bush win in 2000.

    •  No it's not. (0+ / 0-)

      A vote for a candidate is simply a vote for that candidate.

      •  Such a simple analysis might be appropriate in (3+ / 0-)

        an election for 7th grade class president. In national poltics it is woefully inadequate.

        What counts in adult electoral politics is the end result. I am quite sure that Bush's handlers were gleeful that Nader was drawing so many votes away from Gore. They don't care even a little bit that it was a combination of Bush and Nader votes that won the election (or made it close enough to steal) in 2000. All they know is that the Supreme Court now has a 5-4 majority and is poised to obtain a hard majority for the ultra-conservative side of things if Romney gets the election handed to him by Obama defectors.

        I urge anyone leaning toward voting Green to think long and hard about what will happen to their agenda if another Scalia or Alito gets appointed to the Supreme Court. SCOTUS is the final arbitor and they will be able to slap down any green or progressive measures they see fit if that happens.  Please keep Citizens United firmly in mind as you go to the polls come November.

        The world is a den of thieves and night is falling. -Ingmar Bergman

        by Pirogue on Sun Sep 16, 2012 at 02:06:20 PM PDT

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        •  The US Needs (0+ / 0-)

          real change.

          Anyone leaning towards a lesser of two evils needs to think if they want to support a lesser evil. If they want to embrace that evil as their own.

          I did that in the last two elections, but I'm thoroughly done with that argument, having seen what was done with a huge mandate for real change.  

          I don't believe change will happen in the US until movements like OWS become strong, and until 3rd parties are polling around 10%, then we will see change in a positive way.

    •  I'm not voting for Romney (0+ / 0-)

      Ergo, I 'm voting for Obama.  

      Makes as much sense as your assertion.

      You may think that. I couldn't possibly comment.-- Francis Urqhart

      by Johnny Q on Sun Sep 16, 2012 at 04:44:03 PM PDT

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