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  •  Thin Branch (36+ / 0-)

    They've not only climbed out onto that thin branch, they're sawing it off behind them.

    What will happen after November's Election will determine if the GOP survives.

    IF the RW Nutbags riot in the South, attacking businesses and people they think of as Democratic, then they're done.

    The humiliation will be so powerful that their fragile coalition of three different Conservative groups will shatter.

    It happened to the Whig Party over Slavery.

    Just as then, a third-Party will step forward to grab public support.

    Back then, it was the Republican Party that grabbed the Limelight.   They were Progressives, but were gradually corrupted by Conservatives.

    This time, if we're REALLY lucky, it will be the Green Party.

    But since we're not all that lucky, it will probably be a Libertarian Coalition.

    The six varieties of Libertarian will try to agree on SOMETHING.

    And since they don't agree on much, they will be weak for years.   Long enough for the Progressives to fix the major problems Reagan created and Bush II blew up.

    The opportunity to strengthen Unions, Teachers, Firefighters, repeal NAFTA and CAFTA and raise Tariffs against China will only come once; don't miss it.

    •  Good analysis (4+ / 0-)
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      markthshark, Creosote, Templar, oceanview

      which is why it is vital to not just defeat them but to trounce them come November. GOTV!

      Nothing human is alien to me.

      by WB Reeves on Mon Sep 17, 2012 at 01:02:44 AM PDT

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    •  The GOP will survive, count on it. (6+ / 0-)

      an old sig line of mine from early 2009, when kos and co were gleefully chortling about the republican party being a "regional rump" party;

      The Republican party will never die until there is a new political home for racists
      Racism is a core defining concept of what it means to be American. Either you are or you aren't, but it defines this country as deeply as any concept of free speech or amassing wealth ever has. There will always be a major political party in America that panders to the racism that infects this nation. It is a market that must be serviced. We will never be rid of it, unfortunately.

      R-Money/R-Ayn, the ENRON Ticket, is not a campaign; it's a hostile takeover bid.

      by kamarvt on Mon Sep 17, 2012 at 04:40:57 AM PDT

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      •  I would say xenophobia (2+ / 0-)
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        Xaxyx, Americantrueandblue

        not racism. They aren't the same thing, though one often looks like the other.

      •  I would be content with a still-existing (1+ / 0-)
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        but weakened Republican Party. But I am not expecting to get even that (no one ever mistook me for an optimist). The racism will not got away. The selfishness will not go away. The Social Darwinism will not go away. The theocratic tendencies will not go away. The warhawking and chickenhawking will not go away. The plutocratic puppetmasters will not go away. In my wildest dreams, I could see the Republican Party splintering and becoming less organized and effective for a while, but even then I expect it would come back. And there's a just-as-likely possibility that after a Mittens Munster loss, the  Republicans would double-down again (quadruple down?) and become even more firebreathingly radical.

        God is always off on business trips--but the Devil, he don't ever leave.

      •  I would say it's "otherism" now (2+ / 0-)
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        FutureNow, kamarvt

        The original basis was racial, but the conservative movement learned long ago how to divide and conquer by manipulating people to fear and hate whatever group they want based on otherness. Now, they can get some people to hate others based on completely fabricated "differences".

        As for whether the conservative movement will survive: of course it will. Conservatism, and all the related whackadoodle du jur will always exist because it serves the interests of the powerful. It is like an aggressive cancer - it may be in remission for a while but at some point, when we are weak, it will matastasise again. We must never forget that.

        •  racism trups becuase it is easy to see (2+ / 0-)
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          if someone is black. You can't always tell by looking at someone if they are gay or liberal. Racism is hands down in the driver's seat.

          •  it started there, for sure (0+ / 0-)

            What I was getting at is the legacy of slavery has skewed our view of people generally. It is an instantaneous, unconscious categorization our culture has implanted in all of us to some degree. Whether or not we embrace that impulse and act in bigoted ways is anther question. But dividing all others into "one of us" or "one of them" is a stain we may never wash out. The neat boxes this creates in small minds compel some to create more boxes for the less visibly different, from LGBT to democrats or  Yankees fans. but it is born of the racist current in our culture, no doubt about it.

            R-Money/R-Ayn, the ENRON Ticket, is not a campaign; it's a hostile takeover bid.

            by kamarvt on Tue Sep 18, 2012 at 04:27:17 AM PDT

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