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  •  Whatever you do, don't Google "Occupy RNC". (3+ / 0-)
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    duhban, Don midwest, 714day

    You might hurt a finger. Or a preconceived notion.

    Tampa spent millions locking the city down and posting militarized police all over the place. Take that, add horrible weather, and an unhelpfully bland message for the media (anti-Wall Street protestors take stand against Republicans... not very shocking).

    •  let's just say for the sake of moving this (1+ / 0-)
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      Don midwest

      along that I concede the RNC aspect to you, that really changes very little about Occupy's actions at the DNC.

      And frankly it at best moves me from irritated at Occupy's stupidity to merely annoyed.

      •  That's the idea. (2+ / 0-)
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        hlsmlane, 714day

        Partisans who can't understand how deeply connected 'their side' is to the Wall Street machine are supposed to be annoyed.

        Check out the President's Treasury Department leadership if you aren't understanding why protestors against Wall Street's domination would be found at the DNC. The Special Inspector General on TARP has a great book that provides a ton of insight into how deeply captured Tim Geithner's leadership team is and was.

        •  and you make my point for me (0+ / 0-)

          the only true partisans are those like you that can't understand why everyone isn't wowed by Occupy and you and why we can't just get on your band wagon

          Face it Occupy has become Naderites 2.0

          •  This wagon only fits one. (1+ / 0-)
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            714day

            Not looking for a band, just telling ya what I think. Either pay attention to our President's Treasury Department or don't. Your call. Don't need your company.

            •  wow (0+ / 0-)

              talk about a moving approach to build consenus except not really. And you wonder why Occupy is spinning thier wheels?

              So what exactly should I be paying attention to?

              •  Not a spokesman for occupy, don't need your... (0+ / 0-)

                consensus. Neither do they. Plain boring truth is that Sec Geithner didn't want oversight of the bailouts or the banks involved. Wasn't worried about the (soon to be realized) potential for massive fraud and abuse, buying the industry line that messy stuff like 'legal accountability' would scare off bankers despite the obvious fact that they and their companies would sink without the aid. Obsessively pitched the industry line that with their reputation at risk, nobody was going to commit fraud.

                It's what happened. Take it or leave it. SIGTARP Barofsky had no reason to ruin an otherwise promising DOJ career if this is just a fib, while the folks at Treasury who trashed him had every reason to get his nose out of their business and try make him look like a know-nothing fool.

                •  see that's what you don't understand (0+ / 0-)

                  this nation was founded on consensus and in general should be governored by consensus.

                  The financial situation was fucked up no doubt abotu it but you don't get to be apolitical, I'm sure it's trendy but it's also pointless.

                  Again I ask what should I look out for?

                  •  Apolitical? Who here is apolitical? (0+ / 0-)

                    Being 'political' doesn't mean being intentionally ignorant to and quiet about the faults present in the party and candidates you intend to vote for. Whitewash the situation all you want with empty language about how fucked up the whole thing is. The plain simple fact is that Occupy Wall Street has every reason to protest the complicity of the Democratic Party in the crimes of Wall Street. If it were otherwise, the headlines would be awash in the hundreds of prosecutions of high level financial executives for the massive frauds they've perpetrated.

    •  I've actually been in Tampa during RNC. There were (0+ / 0-)

      about 20 occupiers there. They mostly hung around in their camp in the parking lot a few miles from the convention. There were some bigger marches but they were union-organized and not related to OWS.

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