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  •  Which is why Obama is appealing the NDAA ruling (8+ / 0-)

    http://www.businessinsider.com/...

    and, yes, your conformist attitude toward elections is already well-known here.

    "Democratic and Republican politicians keep each other in business.." - Scott Tucker

    by Cassiodorus on Tue Sep 18, 2012 at 11:46:42 AM PDT

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    •  just like they pushed and pushed (0+ / 0-)

      on the lawsuits around DOMA.

      hey...guess what!  legal precedent and stare decisis are your friends.  the more court rulings against NDAA, the better.  

      Die with your boots on. If you're gonna try, well stick around. Gonna cry? Just move along. The truth of all predictions is always in your hands. - Iron Maiden

      by Cedwyn on Wed Sep 19, 2012 at 06:30:15 AM PDT

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      •  Lemme get this straight? (2+ / 0-)
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        aliasalias, Cassiodorus

        If the Bush administration pushed for the PAT ACT, it was because they were for it.... but if the Obama pushes for NDAA its because he's against it?

        I wish I had the ability to twist my logic like that.

        •  means to an end are means to an end (0+ / 0-)

          two wildly disparate viewpoints can bring one to the same conclusions/course of action.  for example, the komen controversy.  the criticisms from the left and right were markedly different, but the end result was the same:  withdrawal of support.

          all i did was point to an example of how obama used the courts and process to his advantage fighting the DADT fight.  he's doing it again with DOMA.  he wrote the signing statement and forced congress to make some changes to the NDAA language.  what is behind your theory that he secretly ♥ NDAA?  

          also, obama's a lawyer; bush is not.  

          Die with your boots on. If you're gonna try, well stick around. Gonna cry? Just move along. The truth of all predictions is always in your hands. - Iron Maiden

          by Cedwyn on Fri Sep 21, 2012 at 10:46:29 AM PDT

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      •  He added the language by Executive order! (2+ / 0-)
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        Oh, dear dog almighty. You're saying the reason Obama is pushing so hard to overturn HIS executive order added language in NDAA is because he is secretly against it. You know, "the more court rulings against it the better."

        Your logic is more convoluted than a plateful of spaghetti being consumed by a contortionist going down a black hole.

        WE need to tell him we don't agree with HIS legislation.  

        PERIOD.  Exclamation point!

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