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  •  I gotcha but also wishes his Axe only cut (1+ / 0-)
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    47% of the way into said neck? I still take Tiberius for only wanting the luxury, and letting lackies do whatever while he "indulged himself" in things I didn't want to post . . .

    And I think Pissing off the Senate is pretty comparable to what we know.

    •  I first heard this quote (1+ / 0-)
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      when I watched the wonderful series "I Claudius".  Caligula was presiding over some games at the Circus Maximus and refused to allow a popular gladiator to live.  He got booed by the hoi polloi and said the bit about one neck.  When I researched the quote, however, it seems the lines were said privately. So I concede your point about Tiberius.  i always thought W was the perfect candidate for Caligula, anyway.

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      by MadRuth on Wed Sep 19, 2012 at 07:06:28 AM PDT

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      •  I will concede the general point (1+ / 0-)
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        if you take away kill, rape etc and replace with ignore, get rid of programs helping etc, it is rather scary what comparable odd traits there are.

        Yes. I'd say Caligula-W is close/good with a bit of Nero and Elagabalus (spelling?) I think was the one who basically put down non-existant rebellions and historians credit with the Crisis of the Third Century. (I don't think W wanted to be a woman though, cowboy, jet-fighter, literate, etc. but don't recall anything womanly except holding hands etc with the Saudis).

    •  Well I guess in thinking about it really he wasnt (0+ / 0-)

      the only emperor. Just to play in the palace.

      Sorry, almost got a dual Major or Minor in hist, but was too lazy as only the Roman Hist and WWII classes interested me.

      But so many to chose from who if it were acceptable to just kill people I wonder how far off (I suppose stating you do not plan on "ruling" as I am sure Mitt sees is close enough).


      Nero used the office of emperor to suit his desire for an opulent lifestyle, and had absolutely no care for the welfare of the people. [SNIP stuff about him killing mother, and anyone who went against him]

      The Great Fire of Rome, in 64, has given rise to the legend that Nero fiddled while Rome burned. This is not true. He was away in Antium (Anzio), and returned to Rome to try to have the fire put out. He even paid for this out of his own pocket. [but]

      fire largely destroyed the city center [and homes], and Nero had a large part of this destruction rebuilt as his Domus Aurea. This was his gift to himself, a gigantic palatial garden complex of 100 to 300 acres, for which he heavily taxed the citizens throughout the Empire.

       His Guards deserted him in the palace, and he fled to a nearby villa, where a messenger appeared to tell him that the Senate had declared him a public enemy, whom they would beat to death. He had a grave dug, while he repeated, “What an artist dies within me!”

      Tough though, so many undesirables: Commodus wanting center stage, abusing animals, disgusting his constituents, and hated those that probably depended on the state (crippled etc . . .)
      Commodus once ordered all the cripples, hunchbacks, and generally undesirables in the city to be rounded up, thrown into the arena, and forced to hack one another to death with meat cleavers.
      He especially adored killing animals, and killed 100 lions in one day, to the spectators’ disgust. He killed three elephants singlehanded in the arena, beheaded an ostrich and laughed at the senators attending, brandishing the head and motioning that they were next. He speared a giraffe to death, an animal which the spectators did not see as fearsome at all.
      I am sure the giraffe "enjoyed it".


      Did have the lifestyle thing make him go crazy.

      For the first seven months or so, he was loved by all. He paid handsome bonuses to the military, to get them on his side, and recalled many whom Augustus and Tiberias exiled.

      But he became very sick in October of 37, and the disease has never been pinned down. Philo blames it on his extravagant lifestyle of too much food, wine, and sex. After the disease passed and Caligula made a full recovery, he had turned into one of the most evil men in human history.

      In the end I say Tiberius.

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