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  •  You linked to TPM, and I wonder if you saw (5+ / 0-)

    the most recent post about what Sen. Schumer said. Josh Marshall didn't put much stock into Schumer's claims:

    Yeah, Right

    Chuck Schumer says mainstream Republicans plan to retake party if Romney loses.

    Not that I think they didn’t tell him that or even that they didn’t mean it. But c’mon.
                                                            --Josh Marshall

    I have to agree with Marshall on this one. I don't think the mainstream GOP was prepared for the Tea Party wing of their party. The idea was to rile them up and get them to vote for GOP candidates. They were never supposed to actually run and win seats themselves. Now they have a mess on their hands ... pulling the GOP further and further right.

    “Mitt Romney is the only person in America who looked at the way this Congress is behaving and said, ‘I want the brains behind THAT operation.’ ” — Tom Perriello

    by hungrycoyote on Thu Sep 20, 2012 at 11:53:54 AM PDT

    •  I did see the Schumer piece at TPM (4+ / 0-)

      I too am rather leery of that prediction, not that I don't think Schumer is a generally astute observer.  But GOP cooperation is rarely honored in the breech of late.

      However, it seems to me that one element is going to be just how badly the incumbent and first-time wingnut GOP candidates fare in November.  Will it be a crushing rout of them and their ideology (whether voters are after them personally for their idiocy or just bashing anyone wearing the GOP/Romney/Ryan label).

      I think it almost impossible for the Dems to compile a cloture proof Senate majority and that still leaves plenty of room for conservatives to work their mischief.

      Rumor has it that Harry Reid is ready to move on cloture reform, but old traditions die hard in the Senate and Senators know that while cloture is a bitch when you are trying to pass legislation you want, it is a bully weapon when you are trying to block bills you don't want, or have been paid enough to cripple or kill.

      Remember...everyone is going to return to DC after the elections and all will already be thinking about 2016 with a clean slate for candidates from both sides.

      The conservatives are clearly going to feel that Romney betrayed them....that he was not truly one of them...never fully drank the Kool Aid and was an awful representative of their cause.  If they can just find the RIGHT candidate (and poor Paul Ryan would likely be an ideal one in their minds) they can they need to get control of the party which has used them and discarded them like a one-night stand.

      They don't comprehend that their philosophy is NOT one that will win over the American electorate....they just think it wasn't spelled out right.  And they will of course blame the liberal media for not letting them get their message across.

      Overall, I would be surprised if Schumer's view turns out to work.

      Free markets would be a great idea, if markets were actually free.

      by dweb8231 on Thu Sep 20, 2012 at 12:07:14 PM PDT

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    •  schumer is a VERY smart politician. (4+ / 0-)

      He's just trying to stir up shit between the GOP factions.

      "A squid eating dough in a polyethylene bag is fast and me?" - Don Van Vliet

      by AlyoshaKaramazov on Thu Sep 20, 2012 at 12:12:29 PM PDT

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