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  •  I'm Sure the Hunter Gatherers Thought the Same (11+ / 0-)

    benefits would follow once we learned to fly through the air.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Sun Sep 23, 2012 at 09:32:19 AM PDT

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    •  They kinda did. (8+ / 0-)

      Life in some downtrodden Eastern European town in the 21st century is paradise compared to the lifestyle of Bronze Age kings.

      Everything there is to know about the GOP: They're the Bad Guys.

      by Troubadour on Sun Sep 23, 2012 at 09:53:04 AM PDT

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      •  The kings did ok. The peasants, not so much. (6+ / 0-)



        Is it true? Is it kind? Is it necessary? . . . and respect the dignity of every human being.

        by Wee Mama on Sun Sep 23, 2012 at 11:01:53 AM PDT

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        •  I wouldn't envy the kings. (7+ / 0-)

          Their lives were in constant danger from foreign, domestic, and family intrigues; they didn't live much longer than their subjects, which means being 35 = old; and at any moment their entire family - in fact, their entire society - could be wiped out by invasion, and everything they've ever known obliterated in the blink of an eye.  Wealth and power are a major consolation to any bad circumstance, but anyone who would choose to be an ancient king rather than an average person today is pretty foolish.

          Everything there is to know about the GOP: They're the Bad Guys.

          by Troubadour on Sun Sep 23, 2012 at 11:10:22 AM PDT

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          •  Epidemics (5+ / 0-)

            Terrible public hygiene and the potential for pandemics trouble me more than the potential for violence.  Enemy invasions might be bad, but the invaders would be noted long before they arrived and the potential for negotiations always existed.  Just how do you address a microbe you don't even know exists?  Bolts from the blue always terrorize more.

            "Love the Truth, defend the Truth, speak the Truth, and hear the Truth" - Jan Hus, d.1415 CE

            by PrahaPartizan on Sun Sep 23, 2012 at 11:30:40 AM PDT

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            •  Yep. The vast majority of kingdoms (2+ / 0-)
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              that have ever existed were small and tribal, and virtually all of them were wiped out at some point by famine, plague, extermination by an invader, or enslavement.  Their rulers usually had plenty of food, wine, and women, but for most of them their known world consisted of a few valleys and the two or three domains just beyond in any direction.  Exceptions with large territories and multinational subjects - e.g., Egypt, Persia, Rome - were rare, and merely added complexity to the job of ruling without adding much to the lifestyle beyond variety.

              So unless one lives in a part of the world where starvation and slaughter are routine, there aren't many people today whose lives would be improved by being an ancient king.  The closest thing we have to that lifestyle today would be a mobster, and even they probably appreciate antibiotics and having more than a few thousand people in the entire world speaking their language.

              Everything there is to know about the GOP: They're the Bad Guys.

              by Troubadour on Sun Sep 23, 2012 at 12:21:17 PM PDT

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