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  •  Except there is something you may not be aware of (3+ / 0-)
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    high uintas, little lion, highacidity

    the Romney's were not the only Mormon family that fled to Mexico and repatriated?

    Guess what? The Romney's were not the only Mormons to do that and the insight I have into the mindset of that particular faction is important.

    Education is a progressive discovery of our own ignorance.

    by Horace Boothroyd III on Mon Sep 24, 2012 at 05:50:52 PM PDT

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    •  Question (1+ / 0-)
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      erush1345

      is the girl referenced in the diary from that group?  All we know is that she is wearing a ring.

      You want to talk Romney, the diary was talking about a girl.  That girl was assumed to be part of a Mormon conspiracy because she wore a ring...that's it.  That's stereotyping, and very frankly, shitty.

      "Empty vessels make the loudest sound, they have the least wit and are the greatest blabbers" Plato

      by Empty Vessel on Mon Sep 24, 2012 at 05:54:34 PM PDT

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      •  Probably not, tho she may have family (5+ / 0-)

        Who knows? The church has a way of involving itself in politics and motivating its member to act and staying on the down low for the most part. Prop 8 was a window into how they act, remember it.

        And for everyone who says that "all Mormons don't do it, they are all not the same" you are right. There are lots of good Mormons, but don't discount how much this church wants Romney to be elected and how experience they are in political activism.

        "The scientific nature of the ordinary man is to go on out and do the best you can." John Prine

        by high uintas on Mon Sep 24, 2012 at 06:06:32 PM PDT

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        •  The Catholic Church (2+ / 0-)
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          also opposed Prop 8, in a big way.  So if the girl wore a crucifix you would be talking about a Catholic cabal?

          "Empty vessels make the loudest sound, they have the least wit and are the greatest blabbers" Plato

          by Empty Vessel on Mon Sep 24, 2012 at 06:14:59 PM PDT

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          •  71% of Catholics support marriage equality, (2+ / 0-)
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            according to at least one poll.   Another poll shows something like 63% support it, and both are higher than the 54% of the general public who support equality.    In contrast, 72% of people in Utah oppose marriage equality.

            That said, another poll shows that the LDS church positions on marriage and homosexuality are causing a loss of faith.
            http://qsaltlake.com/...

            •  Since when does reality mean anything? (3+ / 0-)
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              They're talking about the official position of the church, though.  The catholic church does have a view.  Most catholics just ignore it.

              Should catholics get a pass for this?  How absurd!

              Actually, this is how long standing bureaucratic institutions change.  Broad support within communities against a position the higher up hold.  Over time, the younger generations will take over and the older generations will be dead.

              •  Both churches do support the NOM hate group, (1+ / 0-)
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                highacidity

                but my point was about the church members.    LDS members are overwhelmingly opposed to marriage equality.

                Catholics apparently have the enlightened views they do because their church's teachings on divorce force them to understand the difference between a legal contract and a religious rite.

      •  Forgot to add the "ring thing" (7+ / 0-)

        It's been mistaken as a chastity ring, or some such. It just means "Choose the right" and it's a reminder to be good. It's useful for identifying Mormons because most young kids get one when they reach their teens. We here like the joke about which "right" they are referencing since most LDS are Republican.

        "The scientific nature of the ordinary man is to go on out and do the best you can." John Prine

        by high uintas on Mon Sep 24, 2012 at 06:13:50 PM PDT

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      •  Not quite true - the girl was screening (4+ / 0-)

        voters to register those who plan to vote for Romney.

        She lied to a potential voter.  When she realized she was being filmed she tried to hide her face.

        Romney is a Republican.
        Romney lies to potential voters as if he has some kind of impunity.
        Romney is Mormon.

        Young woman is a Romney supporter (likely Republican).
        Young woman lies to potential voter.
        Young woman is wearing a Mormon ring (likely Mormon).

        The diary isn't suggesting that all Mormon's lie.  Or that all Republicans in Colorado lie. Or even that all Mormon's are going to vote for Romney.

        The other diary DOES ask a legitimate question - who (which organization, which people, founded by whom?, funded by whom?) trained this young woman in voter registration and directed this young woman to screen voters and lie about who she works for!

        Given that the candidate refuses to discuss any of his lifelong church activities, and what kinds of oaths or loyalties inform his campaign, it's fair to assume this young woman didn't just decide to do this on her own.

        •  No she did not just decide to get up one morning (1+ / 0-)
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          and go out and deceive voters.

          To help some of you understand what we are up against using fiction:

          Mormon Daleks are their children!

          Education is a progressive discovery of our own ignorance.

          by Horace Boothroyd III on Tue Sep 25, 2012 at 05:25:46 AM PDT

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