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  •  We need to get real numbers to students (3+ / 0-)

    illustrating the range of job descriptions and incomes that people obtain after pursuing a particular course of study and career track.  A lot of smart students innocently end up in academic fields with no realistic career prospects at all.  If someone wants to do that knowing what their chances are, that's fine, but it ought to be an informed choice.  

    I realize this is slightly beside the clear point that adjuncts deserve better pay and treatment.  I just wonder what might be done to improve the "oversupply" of instructors that allows colleges to be so petty and cheap.  

    There are thousands hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root. -Thoreau

    by Frameshift on Tue Sep 25, 2012 at 06:43:32 AM PDT

    •  Law schools publish job placement statistics but (7+ / 0-)

      you count as "employed" if you work at Starbucks.  Look up the Law School Scam blogs and newspaper articles.

      Check out Marc Bousquet's book, How the University Works" to see that there is no "oversupply" of academic labor.  Higher Education has basically outsourced it work by reducing the number of good tenure track jobs in order to save money.  This is not a bug, but a feature.

      Also education is not just a prep for job training.  Thinking is an important skill in a democracy so that our citizens don't fall for bullshit.

      "The working class mind is strange and unpredictable" -- Ty Lookwell

      by Illinibeatle on Tue Sep 25, 2012 at 07:12:45 AM PDT

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      •  There is definitely oversupply in many fields (1+ / 0-)
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        as numbers cited elsewhere in the comments suggest.

        Use of adjuncts may worsen things considerably, but it may be as much a symptom of oversupply as a cause.

        There are thousands hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root. -Thoreau

        by Frameshift on Tue Sep 25, 2012 at 07:17:20 AM PDT

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    •  Every school I've worked in does precisely (1+ / 0-)
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      this, but when you hear, "Only 35% of our PhDs will work in tenure-track jobs" you think that you are one of the 35%, especially when (let's face it) you look around you and you know that at least a third (if not more) of your cohort is not going to complete the degree in a fashion that will get them hired.

      Things are also different now than how they used to be. Corporations used to hire PhDs and they used to make more money outside academia. The last 4 years have been an utter disaster.

      There are two kinds of people in this world. The kind who divide the world into two kinds of people, and the kind who don't.

      by upstate NY on Tue Sep 25, 2012 at 07:15:26 PM PDT

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