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  •  One problem with that approach... (5+ / 0-)

    They've been doing it for a while, and they've only been getting more and more blatant about it.

    They're going to continue.  They have no shame.  This is what 2016 will look like.  This is what 2020 will look like.

    We need an act of congress to stop this injustice.  They will continue to hammer at the cracks in our system as long as they think they can get away with it.

    Not that I think we have a chance of actually getting an act of congress on this any time soon, but we still need one.

    •  I agree, but... (2+ / 0-)
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      Paul Rogers, chimpy

      we're not at the point where we're starting a new system and get the chance to create a whole new perfectly-designed utopia that would better serve us.  We are where we are because, when the tax system was first created, virtually every single church was just assumed to be doing good work without exception and the country was far more religious than it is today.  Today, most churches still do good stuff (feed the hungry etc...) but they also mix in a little politics from time to time - pushing the boundaries of how far they can go.  And many churches (Scientology comes to mind, but you know, John Travolta did fly to Haiti with some supplies once) don't do much good at all.  So now, it's a mixture, with some good and some bad.

      Ideally, the churches would be required to legally segregate their political activities from their arguably beneficial activities and one would be taxed and the other wouldn't.  But the genie is out of the bottle and to try to cram it back in would be extremely difficult to do as a political matter.

      There are still some lines, and Paprocki, a trained lawyer, at least seemed to be endeavoring to comply with the fuzzy mostly unenforceable lines that do exist.  if he had advocated for a particular candidate, he would have crossed the line.  But he didn't.

      I think we're just going to have live with the Roman Catholic Church acting this way - luckily, most American Catholics have long since learned to disregard the bishopcracy when and as they want.

      Thanks to President Obama, the Iraq War is Over!

      by Viceroy on Wed Sep 26, 2012 at 03:07:41 PM PDT

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      •  Modern problems are built on the bones of history. (2+ / 0-)
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        Viceroy, tytalus

        He violated the spirit of the law, not the letter.  When people do that, we could always change the letter of the law.  But it looks like most of us are just getting angry over the spirit of the law being violated.

        That doesn't really help much, but until enough people are angry about the intent of the law being violated, the law won't be changed to fix these technical loopholes.  I agree it's unlikely to happen.

        As an aside, that's generally why I speak rather vociferously against religion in general and I suspect it's the motivation for a lot of others who do so.  I suspect that is the best way forward on many issues, but there's plenty of more inclusive ways to solve these sorts of problems.  It's worth talking about all of them from time to time.

        It seems that every generation of people have to fix the loopholes the previous generations left behind.  This will extend into the future forever, I'm sure.

        "The price of freedom is eternal vigilance."  <--  Whoever said that: precisely.

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