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  •  Having our cake and eating it too? (1+ / 0-)
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    To do so by giving our young people, including the children of immigrants and the unprivileged, a “common core” of American values.  And I do acknowledge that our public education system has given millions of our kids an opportunity to learn the basic skills to give them a path out of poverty.
    But not just immigrants or the underprivileged - it should be every student. All of them.  Education has fragmented, there is no military draft, and we now have a system where there is no common core.

    I firmly believe we should be doing that, and have ceased doing it in recent decades. That idea of a "common core" can probably be achieved with fewer hours per day, or fewer years of structured education. There could be a standard curriculum of learning objectives to ensure that everybody - of all demographics and socio-economic strata - has a solid foundation in specific aspects - the old 3-Rs of reading, writing, arithmetic; plus some standard  history, civics, science. Teachers should have flexibility in how those standard elements are conveyed in order to deal with individual learning styles.

    Beyond that, through choices of public, private or home schooling ,additional content can be offered. It may be some kids pursuing trades rather than college, some pursuing arts, some being indoctrinated in their families preferred religious or freethinking views.

    " can’t find any oxygen from outside the aircraft to get in the aircraft, because the windows don’t open. I don’t know why they don’t do that. It’s a real problem." Mitt Romney

    by Catte Nappe on Wed Sep 26, 2012 at 05:16:50 PM PDT

    •  I firmly believe it is a recipe for a... (2+ / 0-)
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      reconnected, FloridaSNMOM

      regimented society for everyone to learn the same thing at the same time at a pace set by the state rather than at ones own pace.  

      IMO true learning is self-directed or it becomes indoctrination instead.

      Cooper Zale Los Angeles

      by leftyparent on Wed Sep 26, 2012 at 06:21:13 PM PDT

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      •  I'm an Internationally Known Self Teacher. (1+ / 0-)
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        Catte Nappe

        I've worked with thousands of people in my field but never yet after 40 years met a peer who like me learned to work up to ordinary professional standards of our field almost entirely without trained teachers.

        Now, I'm not known for what I can do. As I say it's just very ordinary professional standards. But the kind of knowledge and insights I needed to acquire on the way to become my own teacher, working from a state of ignorance, led me to be able to contribute in other ways, and those insights are what I'm known for.

        If as a kid I had had a teacher trained in teaching my craft, I could have reached my peak level of performance a generation earlier than I did. I've been a teacher of my craft for over 30 years and it's probably around 5 years or more between students who show an appetite and aptitude for structuring their learning process.

        Self teaching is a talent in an of itself like perfect pitch or the ability to see shapes from mathematical equations. It has to be far above average if it's to result in average or above average results in educating one's self out of ignorance.

        Something about what you're advocating doesn't add up.

        We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

        by Gooserock on Wed Sep 26, 2012 at 08:36:09 PM PDT

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        •  Forgive me... I'm not understanding your comment! (1+ / 0-)
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          Most of us adults end up being our own teachers, learning most of what we need to learn outside of any formal educational setting.  Not sure what you mean!

          Cooper Zale Los Angeles

          by leftyparent on Wed Sep 26, 2012 at 09:02:55 PM PDT

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