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  •  I firmly believe it is a recipe for a... (2+ / 0-)
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    reconnected, FloridaSNMOM

    regimented society for everyone to learn the same thing at the same time at a pace set by the state rather than at ones own pace.  

    IMO true learning is self-directed or it becomes indoctrination instead.

    Cooper Zale Los Angeles

    by leftyparent on Wed Sep 26, 2012 at 06:21:13 PM PDT

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    •  I'm an Internationally Known Self Teacher. (1+ / 0-)
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      Catte Nappe

      I've worked with thousands of people in my field but never yet after 40 years met a peer who like me learned to work up to ordinary professional standards of our field almost entirely without trained teachers.

      Now, I'm not known for what I can do. As I say it's just very ordinary professional standards. But the kind of knowledge and insights I needed to acquire on the way to become my own teacher, working from a state of ignorance, led me to be able to contribute in other ways, and those insights are what I'm known for.

      If as a kid I had had a teacher trained in teaching my craft, I could have reached my peak level of performance a generation earlier than I did. I've been a teacher of my craft for over 30 years and it's probably around 5 years or more between students who show an appetite and aptitude for structuring their learning process.

      Self teaching is a talent in an of itself like perfect pitch or the ability to see shapes from mathematical equations. It has to be far above average if it's to result in average or above average results in educating one's self out of ignorance.

      Something about what you're advocating doesn't add up.

      We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

      by Gooserock on Wed Sep 26, 2012 at 08:36:09 PM PDT

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      •  Forgive me... I'm not understanding your comment! (1+ / 0-)
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        Most of us adults end up being our own teachers, learning most of what we need to learn outside of any formal educational setting.  Not sure what you mean!

        Cooper Zale Los Angeles

        by leftyparent on Wed Sep 26, 2012 at 09:02:55 PM PDT

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