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  •  2 years ago, UN adopted resolution w/ right (4+ / 0-)

    to water as a human right. The right to water was derived from the right to an adequate standard of living, which is already contained in several international treaties on human rights. This was a critical first step and the question now is whether it is legally binding right.

    Why you would think i don't care about the rest of the world just because i limited my response to the precise narrow issue addressed in this diary is beyond me.

    The right to water is about "safe, clean, affordable and accessible drinking water" i.e., not contaminated or polluted water.

    Earth provides enough to satisfy every man's need, but not every man's greed. Mohandas K. Gandhi

    by Patriot Daily News Clearinghouse on Thu Sep 27, 2012 at 12:53:16 PM PDT

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    •  So where is this water supposed to come from? (2+ / 0-)
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      by glorificus on Thu Sep 27, 2012 at 02:38:54 PM PDT

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    •  "Right" to an adequate living standard? (1+ / 0-)
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      How exactly does that work?

      I can understand free speech rights, religious liberty, etc.

      But a 'right' to a standard of living, basically that just because you are alive, other people are obliged to expend their own resources on your behalf? And if you choose to have children, perhaps many more than you can support, the rest of us have our own right to a living standard abrogated to make room for yours or those of your children? And what if it isn't possible, that there literally is not enough to go around?

      I like state-sponsored potable water and high living standards just as much as the next guy, but how do you establish an economic concern on the same level as free speech? Free speech is free in the economic sense too: how do you establish a right that's not free economically?

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      by Sparhawk on Thu Sep 27, 2012 at 02:48:08 PM PDT

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      •  I think the idea is that (0+ / 0-)

        anyone that stands in the way of a person getting clean water would be liable for some kind of penalty.

        Water polluters, perhaps, or people upstream who dry up the river and drought out the downstream folk.  

        Corporations that 'corner' the water supply and refuse to share.

        Like all the other legislation for human rights, nice to have on paper, hell to put into practice.

        •  Sure, but (0+ / 0-)

          What if those "upstream people" are only using a subsistence level themselves?  Should they be forced to go without?

          Those who support banning cocaine are no better than those who support banning cheeseburgers

          by EthrDemon on Fri Sep 28, 2012 at 09:05:52 AM PDT

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      •  The first step is to declare it as a right. (0+ / 0-)

        I'm sure there are many good people working on how to do it from there.

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