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  •  This is itself a diversion (1+ / 0-)
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    Ian Reifowitz

    We aren't talking about ideological structures. We aren't even talking about those who occupy the commanding heights of the social edifice that maintains those structures. We are talking about those who live under such structures and are confronted with the choice of acquiescence or moving into active opposition.

    MLK's entire strategy was predicated on the efficacy of a moral,social and economic appeal across the color line. His final great initiative, The Poor People's Campaign, was a  testament to this.

    One can agree or disagree with his judgement. However, it cannot be written out of his legacy and it certainly doesn't deserve comparison to "empathizing" with white supremacy or white racism.    

    Nothing human is alien to me.

    by WB Reeves on Sun Sep 30, 2012 at 12:26:11 PM PDT

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    •  king was a master provocateur who understood how (0+ / 0-)

      to shame white america and push white elites in the context of the cold war to act in their own interest by confronting jim and jane crow.

      even during the height of the movement white public opinion was very split, the plurality (from memory of some gallup data) were either indifferent to black civil rights or actively opposed king. hell, most white people thought that blacks in america had "equal opportunities."

      what a joke.

      he was, as you know, at the time of his murder one of the most unpopular people in the united states.

      you asked me to be 'empathetic" to the racial paranoia, white racial resentment, and investment in the psychic wages of whiteness as paid to poor white people. in this context that is empathy for white racism. king would have had little of those sorts of feelings.

      pity and sadness for those lost souls, and certainly king had discussed how white racism hurts white people, but empathy? doubtful. but he was complicated and unless we have full access to his archives and thoughts we would have to do some work to get a definitive answer.

      •  Chauncy (0+ / 0-)

        I've never said anything remotely like this:

        you asked me to be 'empathetic" to the racial paranoia, white racial resentment, and investment in the psychic wages of whiteness as paid to poor white people. in this context that is empathy for white racism. king would have had little of those sorts of feelings.
        I don't I think I've ever actually asked you to "empathize" with anyone. If I'm wrong about this, just point out where I did so.

        In any case, this is obviously your take. My repeated efforts to clarify my position to you don't appear to have done any good so I guess we  will just have to let it lie.

        Nothing human is alien to me.

        by WB Reeves on Mon Oct 01, 2012 at 05:07:12 AM PDT

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