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  •  so what is the kill radius of 18lb thermobaric ? (4+ / 0-)

    Googled this but that is a huge blast radius.

    http://www.alternatewars.com/...

    AGM-114A Hellfire
    Minimum Range: 1,500 meters  
    Maximum Range: 8,000 meters  
    Warheads: 18 lb 6.89” Shape Charge

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    by CitizenOfEarth on Mon Oct 01, 2012 at 08:01:00 AM PDT

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    •  Approx 100 feet although because of the weapon (2+ / 0-)
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      type, thermobaric weapons produce shock waves that travel at 2 feet per second, so the actual kill zone depends on terrain type, target structure, etc...

      Essentially thermobaric weapons do not kill traditionally how we think of explosive devices.

      Also, drones have started switching up as the Hellfires are burned through they've switched to using the AGM-230 as well not the older 114's

      Manufacturer: AeroTech Missiles Systems
      Designed: 2007
      Entered Service: 2010
      Status: In service
      In service with:
      - Transnapastaini Air Fleet
      Weight: 45 lbs (20.4 kg)
      Length: 3.5ft (1 m)
      Diameter: 5.5 in (13.9 cm)
      Warhead: Integrated Blast Fragmentation Sleeve 13 lbs (5.8 kg)
      Engine: AeroTech MR-230 Solid-fuel rocket
      Operational range: 5 mi (8 km)
      Speed: Mach 1.3 (989 mph; 1,591 kph )
      Guidance system: Semi-active laser homing, Global Positioning System or Inertial navigation system.

      Aerotech along with Lockheed are also rolling out a new variable warhead, scalable explosive force weapons.

      Don't get me wrong, its still terror by any other name when using these things, but they are at least trying to scale the tech so that true targeted strikes are possible.

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      by idbecrazyif on Mon Oct 01, 2012 at 08:12:41 AM PDT

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      •  Ohh and here is a good video showing the different (0+ / 0-)

        nature of the explosions

        --Enlighten the people, generally, and tyranny and oppressions of body and mind will vanish like spirits at the dawn of day. - Thomas Jefferson--

        by idbecrazyif on Mon Oct 01, 2012 at 08:16:06 AM PDT

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        •  And here is a scaled up equiv (1+ / 0-)
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          its important to note that the flash is faster and it does not expand from the reaction, the devastation is from the intense vacuum and blast wave afterwards.

          So when used out in the open, these 18lb warheads can actually have a vastly increased kill radius as the wave can crush and collapse lungs, damage internal organs, etc.. especially in elderly, children, and those with small frames.

          Its a pretty horrific way to day for those on the edges of the radius, as you either suffocate slowly from a collapsed lung or die from internal hemorrhaging.

          The intent for those weapons was to be utilized in an urban and cave environment, where hardened targets could be penetrated, the explosive dispersed and the ignited neutralizing everything inside the target but leaving the outside relatively intact.

          --Enlighten the people, generally, and tyranny and oppressions of body and mind will vanish like spirits at the dawn of day. - Thomas Jefferson--

          by idbecrazyif on Mon Oct 01, 2012 at 08:25:49 AM PDT

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      •  not winning Hearts and Minds for the US. (5+ / 0-)

        ok so the kill zone diameter is 200 feet. 2/3 the length of football field. I'm still not comforted. Thanks for the info.

        Whatever the blast radius this 'super cool technology', images like this are not winning Hearts and Minds for the US. In fact, quite the opposite I'm sure.  

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        by CitizenOfEarth on Mon Oct 01, 2012 at 08:26:29 AM PDT

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