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  •  "Often enough" (3+ / 0-)
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    is perhaps a better phrase. Once being enough to qualify.

    As I stated below, the police power is used to easily and peaceful demonstration is shut down when it is inconvenient or embarressing  to the people in power... or not something that can be controlled by them through means other than the police power.

    The use of pepper spray at UC-Davis being a clear recent example.

    This is not new however. Free speech has often been supressed when it challenges existing power bases. It's just the way it is and it is why it should never be taken for granted and such abuses should always be highlighted. Hence my earlier statement that "once being enough to qualify" as a serious problem.



    "Do what you can with what you have where you are." - Teddy Roosevelt

    by Andrew C White on Fri Sep 28, 2012 at 07:08:35 PM PDT

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    •  Andrew - but the use of pepper spray was (5+ / 0-)

      not legal. The officer who sprayed the students was terminated, along with some other officials at UC Davis. The sprayed students sued in civil court and won a substantial settlement.

      "let's talk about that"

      by VClib on Fri Sep 28, 2012 at 08:52:57 PM PDT

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      •  Totally illegal (4+ / 0-)
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        and it was obviously an abuse of power at the time...

        But it didn't stop it from happening.

        I am pleased as can be that the courts did the right thing. But the abuse of the police power to infringe on free speech and freedom of assembly is a fairly regular thing in our nations history when that speech and those assemblies challenge the prevailing power.

        And it will happen next time too.

        Our Bill of Rights and our courts honoring of it make it so that we move forward regardless of these abuses. Quite often after a great deal of suffering has been had but we win out in the end as long as we never allow the Bill of Rights to be ignored or curtailed. My fear right now is that it is indeed being infringed upon and curtailed. It is encouraging that court battles are being won but they aren't all won yet and we can't allow any chipping away at our individual rights or we're fucked.



        "Do what you can with what you have where you are." - Teddy Roosevelt

        by Andrew C White on Fri Sep 28, 2012 at 10:12:19 PM PDT

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      •  True, but the frequency suggests (0+ / 0-)

        Systematic erosion of the opportunity to exercise rights.

        When the use of such tactics declines, you will have a more convincing case.

        What about my Daughter's future?

        by koNko on Sat Sep 29, 2012 at 12:11:21 AM PDT

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