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  •  buying into the nonsense (4+ / 0-)

    "we" don't have to have a "filibuster-proof" Senate.

    A majority would do, if the majority leader didn't allow the minority party to abuse the filibuster.  

    For starters, there's no existential need to even retain the filibuster rule at all, given its abuse over the past decade.  Are our institutions not allowed to learn from mistakes?

    •  That's the thing though, a majority won't do.. (0+ / 0-)

      .. a super majority is the bar to do anything about the filibuster, and unless Democrats are willing to "blow up the senate" (nuclear option) it'll have to wait for the beginning of a new session, as many here have noted.

      Let's hope Harry Reid and enough Democrats and any sensible republicans (on second thought, fuck them) really have made up their mind to make it happen this time, where a majority in the senate rules and is held accountable for it.

      Not the other way around where the majority is held accountable for what the minority manages to obstruct, like The Jobs act - too many good bills to list

    •  What we have is (5+ / 0-)

      "filibuster by courtesy" -- meaning you can just say you want to filibuster and poof, it's done. If we went back to the original type of filibuster, where a Senator would speak on and on and on in order to prevent a vote on a bill, even reading the phone book, maybe it would happen a lot less often (or at least be more entertaining).

      "If we ever needed to vote we sure do need to vote now" -- Rev. William Barber, NAACP

      by Cali Scribe on Sun Sep 30, 2012 at 11:23:57 PM PDT

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      •  I wish I could rec this 1,000 times (2+ / 0-)
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        Nespolo, JeffW

        because the current "filibuster" is bullshit.  
        They are too lazy for the real thing.

        "I watch Fox News for my comedy, and Comedy Central for my news." - Facebook Group

        by Sychotic1 on Sun Sep 30, 2012 at 11:37:19 PM PDT

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