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  •  It's really aggravating (1+ / 0-)
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    that so many folks who identify themselves as being left can't cope with the slightest criticism. Nine times out of ten they resort to complaining about the style or tone of the criticism or attacking the character of the critic. Anything, it seems, to avoid dealing with the substance of what has been said.

    Thanks for posting this. I haven't read the whole piece yet but I will.  

    Nothing human is alien to me.

    by WB Reeves on Mon Oct 01, 2012 at 01:33:30 AM PDT

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    •  It's really amusing to hear someone who is (1+ / 0-)
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      apparently OK with being lumped in with mythological creatures and likened to maggots in a long-dead dog, decry others' objections to that kind of hyperbole while ignoring those objecters who actually respond with substantive criticism of a hit piece, or falsely characterizing the objecters with statistics pulled out of their excretory pores. I guess there is a reason writers who should and do know better indulge in put-down fantasy. They know they'll have that larger audience of unthinking masochists who far outnumber those who will hunt down a scholarly reality-based discussion of the topic.

      Enough fossil fuel remains on Earth to warm it 6 degrees C by 2100 AD if it is all used. A +6 C planet will only sustain half a billion humans. Human population will rise to 9 billion by 2050. Any questions?

      by davidincleveland on Mon Oct 01, 2012 at 02:05:43 AM PDT

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      •  You consider this substantive? (0+ / 0-)

        Looks more like an illustration of what I was talking about.

        Nothing human is alien to me.

        by WB Reeves on Mon Oct 01, 2012 at 04:38:55 AM PDT

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        •  If your "this" refers to my comment which begins (0+ / 0-)

          "It's really amusing" I reply that that comment wasn't intended to be anything other than my opinion, nor did it pretend to be. My statement within that comment referred to substantive comments, in this thread and elsewhere on the web, which specifically refuted her article.

          I view your refusal to address any of that, in two comments now, as typical of the kind of person who ignores statements which they disagree with but can't refute. By pretending to mistake my "It's really amusing" comment for an attempt at substantive refutation, you deflect from the deficiency of your non-arguments by throwing the sand of misdirection into the eyes of readers who are inclined to fall for your brand of intellectual three card monte, complete with phony statistics.

          I can certainly see why you are attracted to an article full of obfuscatory lies and exaggerations from the pen of a usually worthy and honest writer, appealing as it does to the sort of person who would rather perpetuate even a morally bankrupt piece of hyperbole over their own original thoughts. Perhaps you think to appear cool by easy and swift embracing of a well-known thinking reporter, regardless of what she actually said on this occasion. That kind of "cool" is spelled "pathetic" and snickered at by people who practice their own thinking, in preference to lazy me-tooism.  

          Enough fossil fuel remains on Earth to warm it 6 degrees C by 2100 AD if it is all used. A +6 C planet will only sustain half a billion humans. Human population will rise to 9 billion by 2050. Any questions?

          by davidincleveland on Mon Oct 01, 2012 at 06:10:52 AM PDT

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