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  •  yes you are. (2+ / 0-)
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    arodb, Persiflage

    You made the generalized statement, "When someone purposely kills another for the fun of it, they should be executed."

    That's not the same thing as saying "Malvo deliberately killed others for the fun of it, so he should be executed."  

    Making the general statement opens up the general subject.

    As for Malvo: is a kid under the influence of a Svengali more or less culpable than a kid under the influence of a gang?

    To my mind, where an individual is thoroughly manipulated into a criminal behavior, those who did the manipulating are the ones who bear the full culpability for the acts they caused.

    Further, I would hold abusive parents responsible as accessories to crimes their kids commit, right up to the age of 21, and possibly beyond.  That future responsibility would accrue as part of the penalty for being found guilty of child abuse.   And yes, there are some abused kids who would go off and commit crimes just to see their abusive parents imprisoned, even if they themselves were also imprisoned into the deal.  It would take only a handful of such cases, widely publicized, to put parents on notice that they will face ongoing consequences for abusing their children.

    Alternately, we just make serious child abuse punishable by up to and including life w/o parole in severe cases.  And then enforce the law ruthlessly.  

    Bottom line is, the planet is severely overpopulated as it is, so it's necessary to shift from "quantity" to "quality" when it comes to adding any more humans.  Those who damage their offspring deserve to be dealt with harshly.  

    Further, a diagnosis of rage disorder or conviction of any crime of force or fraud, would carry the additional penalty of surgical sterilization.   Nowhere in the US Constitution is there anything about a "right" to reproduce.  It may have historically been assumed, but that assumption is groundless.  But even if one assumes a "right" to reproduce, that "right", as with one's 2nd Amendment rights, can be rescinded as a penalty for certain categories of criminal offenses.  

    Lastly but by no means leastly:

    If we are going to try juvenile offenders as adults, then the age at which they become eligible for that treatment is the age at which they should also gain the right to vote.

    The logic for this is identical for that with the logic of lowering the voting age to 18 during the Vietnam war: if you're old enough to die for your country, you're old enough to vote.   Thus if you're old enough to be tried for crimes as an adult, you're old enough to vote as an adult.  

    Know what?  I think I'm going to start agitating for that.  

    "Minus two votes for the Republican" equals "plus one vote for the Democrat." Arithmetic doesn't care about their feelings either!

    by G2geek on Mon Oct 01, 2012 at 04:10:31 AM PDT

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    •  You make some points. (1+ / 0-)
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      arodb

      I'm not going to argue your interpretation of my statement or your thoughts above.  I often read your stuff and generally respect what you have to say.  I've either inadvertently poked your button or you've had a bad day.

      Fortunately for Mr. Malvo, what I think doesn't matter.  If it did, he'd be very unhappy and life in the slammer would look real good.

      The longer I live, the clearer I perceive how unmatchable a compliment one pays when he says of a man "he has the courage to utter his convictions." Mark Twain

      by Persiflage on Mon Oct 01, 2012 at 04:58:32 PM PDT

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