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  •  Thanks for bringing up the Florida ballot... (15+ / 0-)

    as Rachel said the other night the November ballot down here is going to be ridiculously long, intentionally ambiguous and insidious at its core.

    We haven't received ours yet but I happened to pick up one of the freebie newspapers in our area (Sarasota) and it contained a big article about how the ballot is going to be very confusing by design, and that people should take the time to read the ballot carefully before filling it out.

    My wife and I are voting absentee this year so this won't be that much of a problem for us. We'll have plenty of time to figure out what's on the ballot. But for people going to their local polling places to vote this is going to be an unmitigated disaster for them, especially with the long lines and the "True the Vote" goons breathing down voter's necks while they frantically try and sort out all the details of the different down-ballot amendments and referendums that the Tea-publicans in Tallahassee always include on the ballots down here just to be dicks.

    I sincerely urge all my fellow Floridians to avoid the whole clusterfu** and call their county elections supervisor's office to request an absentee ballot this year instead of going to their local polling places, which incidentally [on purpose] could easily have changed by now. Many have with little or no notice and that presents a whole 'nother problem for voters that already find themselves pressed for time.

    Thanks for the diary.
     

    "That men do not learn very much from the lessons of history is the most important of all the lessons of history." ~ Aldous Huxley

    by markthshark on Mon Oct 01, 2012 at 04:28:03 AM PDT

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    •  Once you've figured out the issues (4+ / 0-)
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      perhaps you could post a clear, short synopsis with vote recommendations so others can print out a "cheat sheet" to take to the polls and save time while voting.  Or even print it out to distribute to like-minded people yourself.  Seitanist had a diary up yesterday trying to encourage people to share their research.

      I'll also repost a comment I made to that diary:

      I ran across a good website while looking for something else.
       Ballotpedia    

      is a free, collaborative, online encyclopedia about state politics, including elections, congress, state executive officials, state legislatures, recall elections, ballot measures (including ballot measure law, school bond and tax elections and local ballot measures).

          Ballotpedia's staff and volunteers particularly focus on the so-called "down-ballot" candidates and ballot measures that typically receive less attention.

          Ballotpedia is a wiki, which means anyone can improve it. By adding your knowledge and fixing mistakes, the quality and depth of Ballotpedia's information improves over time.

      I checked out the Maryland ballot measures, and it has the text of the measures, the history of the effort, explains what a "For" vote means and gives arguments both pro and con.  They are careful to be clear.  For example, on the same-sex marriage referendum it says:    
      A vote 'For the Referred Law' is in favor of keeping the current law allowing same-sex marriage, in place and unaltered.
      and in listing the significant players on the bill:
      The following are supporters of the veto referendum; therefore, opponents of same-sex marriage in the state
      It also has information on gubernatorial races and state legislative races, with links to info on the candidates (if anyone has submitted such info).

      This is a real treasure trove of information, and since it's a wiki, those who do research on candidates/issues can contribute it.

      They do not have down ballot races below the legislative level; perhaps another year?

      •  The best recommendation is the simplest in FL (4+ / 0-)
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        Not one amendment proposed in Florida this year came from the citizen electorate.  The eleven amendments are a combination of ALEC-style Republlican Trojan horses buried along with a bunch of tax items that don't belong in the Constitution at all.

        The idea seems to have been to snow the voters by making the ballot so obscure that one of two things will happen: either ignore the amendment section entirely, or vote the titles.

        Ignoring the amendments is the most likely based on the random statements I've heard.  "i'll just vote for the president and maybe the local stuff and skip the amendments; it's too complicated."  That's one of the ways the crooks hope to carry some of the issues.  Limiting the number of cast votes to a fraction of the total number of people casting votes magnifies the YES votes where the issues must pass by 60%.

        Next comes the 'can-do' voters who vote based on titles.  Right up front is the amendment to essentially resist the ACA implementation to the maximum degree possible on states' righhts grounds, titled, cagily, "Health Care Services".  Then there's the one that will repeal Florida's 126 year old prohibition of passing state tax money (schools, services, etc.) to religious institutions, cutely named "Religious Freedom".  And the list goes on.

        So start with 1000 voters.  Use the gag reflex of four pages of fine print to scare away 500.  Take advantage of the 100 who just vote YES on anything like this.  Follow it up with the 100 who vote the deceptive titles.  Now you only need 100 of your partisans to pass CONSTITUTIONAL amendments (with 300 of the 500 votes cast) that none of the other 700 would have ever agreed to in the light of day.  It's the Floirida shell game.

        The only rational voter guide that protects the middle class and people who just want to live their lifes without the oppression of the new Taliban is to vote NO on each and every amendment.  After the election, the tax items can be cleared up in the normal sessions next year if they are even worth it.  Meanwhile, don't bother studying the issues: Just Say NO!

        Oh, except for the Supreme Court justices the Koch brothers are trying to destroy for Rick Scott.  Vote them all IN.

    •  Mark have you heard anything about the (2+ / 0-)
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      fact that if you leave a question blank on our Florida ballots, it will count as a yes? I don't want to spread any erroneous information, but yesterday my husband told me he heard that being discussed on the radio. I tried searching for articles but found nothing.

      “Mitt Romney is the only person in America who looked at the way this Congress is behaving and said, ‘I want the brains behind THAT operation.’ ” — Tom Perriello

      by hungrycoyote on Mon Oct 01, 2012 at 11:07:06 AM PDT

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      •  Wow, no, I haven't heard that.... (2+ / 0-)
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        That doesn't even seem legal. But the way those Alec-pushing shills in Tallahassee manipulate the system, I couldn't totally rule it out.

        I'm definitely going to check it out.

        Thanks

        "That men do not learn very much from the lessons of history is the most important of all the lessons of history." ~ Aldous Huxley

        by markthshark on Mon Oct 01, 2012 at 01:01:00 PM PDT

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        •  I thought it was strange. After I typed the first (2+ / 0-)
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          comment I began to wonder if it had more to do what you first wrote and my husband just interpreted wrong. In other words the GOP is counting on people just leaving it blank, but not their voters doing that, so there will be more yes votes. I'm going to keep looking for more too.

          “Mitt Romney is the only person in America who looked at the way this Congress is behaving and said, ‘I want the brains behind THAT operation.’ ” — Tom Perriello

          by hungrycoyote on Mon Oct 01, 2012 at 01:16:54 PM PDT

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          •  I know of at least three I won't be leaving blank. (2+ / 0-)
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            They are particularly concerning.

            Amendment 1 -- Prevents penalties for not purchasing health care coverage in order to comply with federal health care reforms.

            Amendment 5 -- Gives the Legislature increased control over the judicial branch.

            Amendment 8 -- Repeals ban of public dollars for religious funding.

            Here's the Ballotpedia page.

            I'm still looking @ the other eight ballot measures.

            "That men do not learn very much from the lessons of history is the most important of all the lessons of history." ~ Aldous Huxley

            by markthshark on Mon Oct 01, 2012 at 02:04:02 PM PDT

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            •  Yes, I found that site just after my last (2+ / 0-)
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              comment. I agree with you on all three of those.

              “Mitt Romney is the only person in America who looked at the way this Congress is behaving and said, ‘I want the brains behind THAT operation.’ ” — Tom Perriello

              by hungrycoyote on Mon Oct 01, 2012 at 02:17:50 PM PDT

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              •  However egregious the other two are... (2+ / 0-)
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                (and they are) Amendment 5 could be the worst of 'em all.

                It really takes unbridled hubris and gall for Rick Scott's tea-publicans in Tallahassee to try to remove the last legal check on their power. Without that check by the courts they would surely cripple this state for at least a generation.

                No... not in MY state.

                "That men do not learn very much from the lessons of history is the most important of all the lessons of history." ~ Aldous Huxley

                by markthshark on Mon Oct 01, 2012 at 02:37:20 PM PDT

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