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  •  The Obama phone lady (9+ / 0-)

    showed up on my Facebook page. I responded with the factcheck.org link and someone else posted with so much misinformed anger and hatred that I was literally shocked. Here's a sample of his response:

    The Phones are a small issue. Do you know anything about how Mao, Castro, Hitler, Chavez, or any number of other "Leaders" like that came to power? Win the people over, feed them, give them anything they want, loosen education, dumb them down, basically provide for everything they could want until they are absolutely dependent on Gov. Now this is an extreme example but, if you look at the very early days of each of these leaders, there are many similarities.
    I met the angry white male middle aged voter, and it wasn't pretty. I had no idea - this person is someone I thought I respected. The whole thread ended up oozing racism and hate - I don't even know how to respond to people like this.
    •  OMG (11+ / 0-)

      Mao, Castro, Hitler, Chavez, and other "Leaders" came to power by giving free cell phones to poor black people? Who knew?

      •  My grandfather voted for Hitler... (7+ / 0-)

        ... because Hitler promised jobs, not free stuff from the government. He didn't care one way or the other about Jews or the French or the Polish. All he wanted was a job in construction to feed his family.

        He did get a job as a bricklayer, and through a Nazi version of Habitat for Humanity, he built his own house -- which was promptly bombed to smithereens during one of the first British air raids.

        Little did he know (he didn't have the patience to actually read Mein Kampf though he owned a copy) that Hitler's plan for prosperity was based on future plans of mass genocide and world domination. It was basically like kiting a check in hopes of covering it after a successful bank robbery.

        Opa Otto wasn't informed enough to figure that out until it was too late. In his mind it was like, "Hitler promised jobs, I got a job, yay Hitler."

        It was never about dependence on free stuff from the government. No Hitler phone for Opa.

        261.A wealthy man can afford anything except a conscience. -Ferengi Rules of Acquisition

        by MaikeH on Tue Oct 02, 2012 at 08:39:31 AM PDT

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        •  Thank you for your comment/story (5+ / 0-)

          It is profoundly sad that history has been distorted to sell today's misguided right wing ideology. It says folks don't care about the honest & real stories of WWII. Well, I do, and so does my 14 year old who studied WWII and the Holocaust in depth last year - she was physically taken aback when she read that Facebook post. So thanks for sharing - it's stories like your grandfathers that make history real.

        •  Hitler provided jobs (0+ / 0-)

          by strongarming employers into hiring people they didn't need.

          Women were told to go home and have babies to make room for men.

          Jews were told to go home and give up their jobs for "true Germans".

          Hitler then removed women and Jews from the unemployment rolls.  No unemployment!

          That, and public works projects, gave men jobs under Hitler.  Your grandfather no doubt knew what was going on.

          •  It's all a matter of selling it (4+ / 0-)
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            Of course my grandfather knew that women were encouraged to stay home and pop out babies -- his own wife, my grandmother, got a medal (Mutterkreuz) for the four kids she bore for the Fatherland.

            Motherhood was propagandized as the highest calling. Have 'em young, have many of 'em, for the glory of the Aryan race. It's something most totalitarian regimes (with the exception of China) do.

            As for the Jews, they weren't just "told to go home." They were either forced (directly or indirectly) into exile or hauled off. The official story was that they were "deported" or "self-deported."

            In retrospect, it's hard to tell who knew how much when, especially since many of those who were adults at the time are too ashamed to talk about it. From what I hear from relatives, most people who weren't directly involved in the genocide realized that horrible things were happening but decided they were better off not asking too many questions.

            261.A wealthy man can afford anything except a conscience. -Ferengi Rules of Acquisition

            by MaikeH on Tue Oct 02, 2012 at 10:51:24 AM PDT

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          •  That and re-armament... (1+ / 0-)
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            Jerry J

            ...he also unplugged Germany from banking systems.  These two things are probably as significant as the list you gave.  Armaments were critical.

            A Catholic, Jew, Muslim and Buddhist walk into Al Aqsa Mosque. Buddhist immediately exclaims: "excuse me I appear to be in the wrong joke."

            by Salo on Tue Oct 02, 2012 at 12:52:10 PM PDT

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        •  Wish I could rec your story multiple times! (2+ / 0-)
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          It really explains the power of fascism and lays it at the feet of Romney and Ryan who keep their "job creation" plans a secret.

          "The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"

          by Lily O Lady on Tue Oct 02, 2012 at 10:34:03 AM PDT

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    •  Yep. I've Learned a Lot About FB Friends . . . (7+ / 0-)

      During this election season. I had no idea that many of them are Tea Baggers. Luckily, they are the ones I am not very close with.

      I miss Speaker Pelosi :^(

      by howarddream on Tue Oct 02, 2012 at 06:35:21 AM PDT

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    •  These states (0+ / 0-)

      were/are not exactly known for consumerism.  

      A Catholic, Jew, Muslim and Buddhist walk into Al Aqsa Mosque. Buddhist immediately exclaims: "excuse me I appear to be in the wrong joke."

      by Salo on Tue Oct 02, 2012 at 12:54:39 PM PDT

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