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  •  Sounds like they will be forced to use provisional (0+ / 0-)

    ballots???

    2012: It's about the Supreme Court. Follow me on Twitter @farrellmcmanus

    by HarlemUSA on Tue Oct 02, 2012 at 07:23:53 AM PDT

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    •  As far as I can see, the whole law is blocked. (0+ / 0-)
    •  No, it's out for this election (0+ / 0-)

      “The country tried everything Romney says, and it brought the economy to the brink of collapse”

      by Paleo on Tue Oct 02, 2012 at 07:29:57 AM PDT

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    •  It's a win (3+ / 0-)
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      Not a pure win, but the fact that the law got taken back a peg helps.  Poll workers should already be trained on provisional balloting so now it's just an issue of volume.

      But now various voter registration, GOTV and political parties can have a clear message to get out to voters.  There's simply no way the Supreme Court will overturn this order, unless they decide to go even further and overturn the whole law, which I sincerely doubt

      "What if you're on a game show one day and the name of some random New Jersey state senator is the only thing between you and several thousand dollars? And you'll think to yourself, "if only I had clapped faster." - sapelcovits

      by rdw72777 on Tue Oct 02, 2012 at 07:33:22 AM PDT

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      •  Agree (1+ / 0-)
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        They sent it back for a reason, for specific findings.  They're not going to overturn those findings.

        “The country tried everything Romney says, and it brought the economy to the brink of collapse”

        by Paleo on Tue Oct 02, 2012 at 07:35:23 AM PDT

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        •  Just read the whole ruling (1+ / 0-)
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          http://www.pacourts.us/...

          I'm no lawyer, but boy after reading that Judge Simpson certainly oes meet the concept of "strict constructionist"  You can tell he really did contemplate every topic in his ruling.

          I wonde rif the Supreme Court hadn't sent the review back with the specific guidance towards it's impact on "this election" how this ruling may have differed.

          "What if you're on a game show one day and the name of some random New Jersey state senator is the only thing between you and several thousand dollars? And you'll think to yourself, "if only I had clapped faster." - sapelcovits

          by rdw72777 on Tue Oct 02, 2012 at 07:45:29 AM PDT

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    •  Provisional ballots (1+ / 0-)
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      Actually it's not clear from this article.  The only thing that is clear is that they will not be forced to produce ID subsequently for a provisional ballot to count.

      Simpson decided that for the November 6 election only, voters without appropriate photo ID could vote, but would no longer have to produce identification within six days, as their votes would be counted.
      http://www.philly.com/...

      “The country tried everything Romney says, and it brought the economy to the brink of collapse”

      by Paleo on Tue Oct 02, 2012 at 07:44:00 AM PDT

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      •  Now it seems provisional ballots are out after all (2+ / 0-)
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        In a nutshell, the judge has found that there will still be at least some voter disenfranchisement caused by the new law, because it does not appear that Pa. officials could get id’s into the hands of everyone who wants one before the election.  There earlier PA Supreme Court decision required the judge to enjoin enforcement of the law if he found disenfranchisement on remand, and he has.

        But the judge enjoined only part of the law. UPDATE and CORRECTION: The state may still ask for id.  But it must accept a ballot even if the voter fails to have id.  It will not be necessary to cast a provisional ballot.  [This is a correction from en earlier post.]  This may cause confusion at the polls, as the state will still have poll workers ask for id, even though a voter can vote without it.

        http://electionlawblog.org/...

        “The country tried everything Romney says, and it brought the economy to the brink of collapse”

        by Paleo on Tue Oct 02, 2012 at 07:50:17 AM PDT

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        •  Sounds like (2+ / 0-)
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          Same rules as the primary.  They ask for ID, but if you don't have one you vote anyways.  

          Only exception is 1st time voting in a new polling place, then i'd imagine you still need the ID (this isn't new).

          Still I'd expect we'll see a surge in provisionals as people really don't know what the hell is going on.  Just imagine if PA had more substantial early voting.

          "What if you're on a game show one day and the name of some random New Jersey state senator is the only thing between you and several thousand dollars? And you'll think to yourself, "if only I had clapped faster." - sapelcovits

          by rdw72777 on Tue Oct 02, 2012 at 07:53:49 AM PDT

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        •  Bottom line (apparently) (2+ / 0-)
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          They can ask for ID.  But you don't need ID to vote.  And you don't have to cast a provisional ballot if you don't have ID.

          “The country tried everything Romney says, and it brought the economy to the brink of collapse”

          by Paleo on Tue Oct 02, 2012 at 07:54:59 AM PDT

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