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  •  Oh, I know kovie. (2+ / 0-)
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    kovie, OIL GUY

    It's why getting out the vote is so damn important.

    The only time they win is when we don't show up. Of course that's why they're trying to keep us from showing up in the first place, along with all their other little dirty tricks.

    All of which makes getting folks registered and to the polls even more crucial.

    The bottom line is we DO outnumber them and I want to see huge numbers of us going to the polls.

    I want the Republicans going under in a landslide so they can't do any of their denial of reality BS.

    Oh, they'll still try. Delusion is hard for them to give up.

    But sane Americans showing up in huge numbers will make Republican attempts at delegitimization of the election so obviously pathetic, except to the benighted few.

    "Compassion is not weakness, and concern for the unfortunate is not socialism." Hubert H. Humphrey

    by Onomastic on Tue Oct 02, 2012 at 06:32:15 AM PDT

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    •  GOTV is certainly important (1+ / 0-)
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      But when we win, it's also because of two other important factors. One, the other side's voters don't come out to vote in large numbers because they're unhappy with their candidates and discouraged in general. And two, we win over more centrists, indies and swing voters than they do. I'm convinced that the latter is absolutely crucial to turning the Democratic party into the country's dominant party, especially if we can win them over permanently and not just election by election. Of course, that would turn them into base voters!

      "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

      by kovie on Tue Oct 02, 2012 at 06:39:06 AM PDT

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      •  Exactly! (2+ / 0-)
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        kovie, OIL GUY

        Don't you think that the Teaparty take over of the Republican Party is doing just that?

        Even folks who identify as Republican are out there GOTV to re-elect President Obama.

        Today's Republican Party is far too extreme for most folks. Of course the talking heads in the Village don't seem willing to touch that one with a ten foot pole.

        "Compassion is not weakness, and concern for the unfortunate is not socialism." Hubert H. Humphrey

        by Onomastic on Tue Oct 02, 2012 at 06:46:23 AM PDT

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        •  Well (2+ / 0-)
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          Onomastic, brae70

          As much as I like it when the other side self-destructs, you can't rely on the other side's stupidity to win. They won't always be in thrall to the far right, and we have to be prepared to be able to win over the center when they come back to their senses. The real enemy to progressivism isn't far-right conservatism, but rather slick center-right neoliberalism, because it SEEMS sensisble to centrists. We have to craft a messaging framework that wins over these people before the other side has a chance to do so again. And it will, sooner than we think.

          "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

          by kovie on Tue Oct 02, 2012 at 06:51:41 AM PDT

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