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  •  Wow!You actually managed to get back to supporting (4+ / 0-)

    private property and "free" market (i.e., corporate takeover of the State so that it can run the government in its own interests).  The heart of socialism is the dismantling of private individual property and the shared wealth of a society by the people. and never the twain shall meet!

    I agree that Lenism was a reactionary form of socialism and it is important to make socialism democratic in the deepest sense.

    •  I'd love to see someone write a diary on the (3+ / 0-)

      "free market" concept.

      In my experience, "free market" means "he who can bully everyone else into paying him more wins." It is a wholly self-interested system with no concern for the well being of other beings or the planet. With it, comes the natural gathering of the biggest bullies, who then collude to capture as much of the "market" as they can together. Call them cartels or governments, I fail to see how a "free market" gets you anywhere else.

      •  UnaSpenser, why don't you do it? (3+ / 0-)

        I think it is a great idea and then others can chime in with what they view free market to mean. You have given a good starting point describing "competition" and monopolistic competition.

        What does a free market mean and how has this argument never worked and that the system has always required regulation of many sorts to control it. Thinking of health and safety conditions, working day legislation, child labour laws, then of course, regulation on banking and finance (dismantled under successive administrations leading to the crash most recently experienced and which the majority are still suffering under the so-called remedies for the inherent crises in a system).

        "Hegel noticed somewhere that all great world history facts and people so to speak twice occur. He forgot to add: the one time as tragedy, the other time as farce" Karl Marx, The Eighteenth Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte .

        by NY brit expat on Sun Oct 07, 2012 at 04:37:44 PM PDT

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      •  This can be summarized as ... (0+ / 0-)

        markets have no morality.

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