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  •  I never said it had anything to do with body types (8+ / 0-)

    Although a great deal DOES - hell, did you know women's BMI charts do not allow for differences in breast size, so that for some women the difference between average weight and overweight is literally a cup size, genetically coded and unavoidable? Seriously. A cup size.

    Congratulations, if your family naturally packs DDs or higher and you have breasts, you will face YEARS of being told your BMI is off unless you have the waist of a supermodel. Possibly even then, because NUMBERS.

    And how is there choice when the HFCS is in everything? It's in the ketchup. It's in the bread. The cheaper something is, the more likely it is to have it in it and oh look, schools have to produce school lunches as cheaply as they can. Look at what items WIC can be used for.

    The information it's an issue IS growing in availability, but the option to act on that information is still as controlled as ever.

    And for all the news about weight-cycling is spreading in some circles, the push for Calories In Calories Out based dieting is as strong as ever. Even when it ends in higher weights and health consequences.

    Prayers and best wishes to those in Japan.

    by Cassandra Waites on Tue Oct 02, 2012 at 07:23:30 PM PDT

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    •  I thought the part where you said (2+ / 0-)
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      Telling someone ten pounds overweight by the chart but the weight her body naturally wants to maintain to diet off the pounds is an easy way to end up with someone fifty pounds overweight whose body will fight like hell to maintain every pound of it.
      was about body type

      and let's be clear, in theory you literally could eat anything so long as you are active enough. For most Americans the most activity they do is the work to and from the car for work and to and from the kitchen. Sure HFCSs are an issue but most Americans don't exercise enough either and I don't know about acting. All I can say is I eat fairly healthy (I am not perfect but then I'm not trying to maintain an athlete level type of body)

      •  Being overweight by the chart can mean something (6+ / 0-)

        as simple as having too much muscle.

        There are a lot of triatheletes who are technically obese by BMI because of developing too many muscle groups too well. You'd never know it by looking at them, and you'd consider them the pinnacle of health, but by BMI they are obese.

        I've heard of at least one person anecdotally with no more body fat available to safely lose being threatened with automatic termination from a police force over the BMI he got from becoming the guy capable of chasing people down on foot and overpowering them physically once he got there. Too bad he was physically fit because of his job, he needed to lose muscle mass and become a less capable policeman to keep that job.

        I have to go by body fat percentage to keep track of my own health because my BMI trends higher than it should because of muscle mass. Not that it puts me in the overweight categories, but because it keeps me out of the underweight category even when I'm actually in physical risk of health consequences in the other direction.

        Prayers and best wishes to those in Japan.

        by Cassandra Waites on Tue Oct 02, 2012 at 07:46:00 PM PDT

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        •  I always go by body fat (1+ / 0-)
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          simply because as you said BMI can be misleading but we're not just talking about people that may or may not be on the edge of being 'overweight' we're also talking about people that are completely and clearly overweight. People that can't walk up a flight of stairs without running out of breath.

    •  Calories In Calories Out is big here on DKos (4+ / 0-)

      Especially among younger men who were formerly overweight but who found it ever so easy to lose weight, who then berate middle-aged or older women who need to lose weight and are talking about this culture's prevalent anti-fat people bias.

      Guys. You think it's easy to lose weight? Go through menopause, then tell women how easy it is.

      Organ donors save lives! A donor's kidney gave me my life back on 02/18/11; he lives on in me. Please talk with your family about your wish to donate.

      Why are war casualty counts "American troops" and "others" but never "human beings"?

      by Kitsap River on Wed Oct 03, 2012 at 02:48:20 AM PDT

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