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  •  Please. (8+ / 0-)

    Being overweight is not necessarily a life style choice.

    When I was a teenager, I was 70 lbs. overweight.

    Then, as if by magic, the weight started falling off (around the age of 16).

    Turns out I had a thyroid problem when I was a kid. That my family didn't tell me about. Hence the reason I was fat.

    So....I sailed through most of my adult life being a size 4.

    And then my thyroid went wonky again and I had to have it removed because of tumors in it.

    And guess what? My weight went up again; by 40 lbs.

    And would not budge no matter how much I dieted.

    Now that my specialist has adjusted my medication (thyroid replacement hormones; 2 kinds) I eat like a normal person and the weigh is coming off (10 pounds gone in 3 months...30 more to go).

    Don't tell me it's about "personal responsibility", sometimes it is a medical issue over which people have no control.

    •  outside of medical problems (0+ / 0-)

      which you had/have being overweight is a choice. It might not be a concious one and it might be one made because of a lot of baggage but it's still a choice.

      •  I don't necessarily agree (3+ / 0-)

        My niece has been fat practically since birth.  She is 99th percentile for height and weight.  She was fat breastfeeding (which I thought was impossible until I saw it for myself).  Her mother is slender (usually around a size 8 to a 10 even with 3 kids) and her two sisters are not fat.

        The doctor can't find anything wrong with her and he said that "Well, you must have rich breast milk."

        The other two were also breastfed but have never even been a little bit overweight.

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        by Sychotic1 on Tue Oct 02, 2012 at 11:42:50 PM PDT

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        •  I would think that would be covered (0+ / 0-)

          under medical/biological reasons because it is true that some people are just 'fat' (which is a word I've been avoiding because obese is actually a medical term that carries objective meaning, fat can mean different things to different people)

          •  So how do we know when it is a "choice" (0+ / 0-)

            can we tell by looking at them, do they wear a sign, or is it better to make the general assumption that, perhaps, there is nothing they can do about it.

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            by Sychotic1 on Wed Oct 03, 2012 at 10:38:46 AM PDT

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            •  stop being sophomoric (0+ / 0-)

              if you've been reading what I have been writing the logical conclusion is you never judge (in fact I've said nothing about judging them at all). Ultimately it's the individual's choice on how to live their life and that includes whether or not there are factors about your weight that are out of your control

              •  I am responding to what you wrote above (1+ / 0-)
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                you called it a "lifestyle choice" which implies that one is choosing to be fat, which leads into the whole gluttony bit which justifies belittling others.

                I am not going to research your entire body of work, but when you say it is a choice, I question that in detail.  My niece does not have a choice and doesn't need others to help her make "better" choices.  I am saying you can't tell the difference between the two kinds of people and therefore operating under the choice parameter can lead to a lot of negative situations.

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                by Sychotic1 on Wed Oct 03, 2012 at 04:50:56 PM PDT

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                •  I wrote a rather detailed (0+ / 0-)

                  and nuanced point on the subject and you attempted to build a juvenile strawman out of it.

                  If you want to play coy about that that then so be it but I am not fooled or amused.

                  In fact you might want to 'research' better because you'd see that up and down this thread I have acknowledged up and down this thread that there are multiple medical conditions that largely to utterly remove any choice in weight either too much or too little (though the latter is admittedly more rare and consists mostly of mental rather then physical illness). Which is preciesly why I do not judge because it's not any of my damn business if someone is obese or even has too much body fat percent by choice or chance.

                  However if it is choice (and frankly outside of medical illness it is choice no matter how much people may want to dispute that) then what I said above applies.

                  Now if you need any clarifcation on that please by all means ask and you shall recieve however further attempts to dumb down my point, be obtuse about it or even build strawmen will be ignored

                •  addendum (0+ / 0-)

                  I looked though the entirity of this discussion, no where have I ever called being obese a 'life style choice'

                  The poster I responded to Marigold mentions this in his/her post with the words "Being overweight is not necessarily a life style choice." and then goes on to explain what he/she meant by that.

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