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  •  extraordinary claims (1+ / 0-)
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    hungrycoyote

    require extraordinary proof

    if you are going to claim that food in America is made to be addictive you'd better be able to prove that

    •  Can you provide extraordinary proof (1+ / 0-)
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      hungrycoyote

      That the food industry isn't doing this?  

      Didn't think so.

    •  Here's a few links (2+ / 0-)
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      Article including comments and a book by former FDA commissioner on the subject

      Article in US News

      Reuters article on food industry lobbying

      A short response to HBO's "Weight of the Nation" (money quote: "As I wrote in my book, focusing on obesity is problematic for many reasons. One, it ensures the focus stays on the individual, instead of the food industry. What do you think when you see a fat person? That it's their fault, they just need to eat better and exercise more.")

      More on Kessler's book

      CBS News 60 Minutes report video

      A few quick common-sense observations:

      Animals are only as nutritious as the food they're fed

      Grains and vegetables are only as full of nutrients as the ground they're grown on

      The more you process foods, the more nutrients they lose -- however many they may have had to begin with

      If you take most of the nutrients out of a food and add a handful back in, it's criminally negligent to call it "enriched"

      •  first thank you (0+ / 0-)

        for an actual response and not a 'well you prove it's not' response I got from mamabigdog

        second this is just a quick response I have to go argue with my cable company, I've opened the links  though and I'll go though them when time permits if I can do that within the next 24 hours I'll respond here again if not  I'll send you a private message if needed

        again thank you

        •  If you think about it, (0+ / 0-)

          it's really not an "extraordinary" claim at all. Imagine this headline:

          "BREAKING! Major US Industry Spends Billions to Maximize Profits, 'Guarantee' Customers!"

          Really? What a shock :p

          The problem is that their products (much like the tobacco industry's) directly, massively, and daily affect the health of their customers -- and let's face it, their customers' health doesn't add to their bottom line. So what they're doing is simply good business practice, just as for the tobacco industries, hiding and obfuscating the deadly effects of tobacco was, business-wise, a smart move.

          And similarly, smoking is about "individual choice". Hey, I'm a smoker -- well, I was, now I'm a vaper -- so I can appreciate that from the inside out, while at the same time acknowledging that the product I'm consuming is inherently addictive, designed by its manufacturers to be more so, and my "free choice" isn't really all that free -- it's a chemical addiction that is very hard to break (in fact I didn't break it -- I switched sources), was hidden from the public for decades, and the sale, marketing and advertising of which is, once again, backed by billions of dollars in lobbying efforts, campaign contributions, and millions of dollars in research into how to make the product's addictive qualities even stronger.

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