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  •  Scott Brown, WASP? (11+ / 0-)

    His daughter went to Boston College.  He's raised over $5 million for an order of nuns.  Not a highly WASP-y track record.

    Funny thing about WASPs in MA politics.  Check out this results map from the 2010 Brown v. Coakley race:

    2010 Results

    There's a pretty clear demarcation here of the only part of the state where WASPs are likely to constitute a majority.  See all that blue stuff in the western part of the state?  Well, that's (by far) the WASPiest part of the state.  There's one town there that's pink, that's Hawley.  Just to its east and a bit skewed southerly is a fairly geographically large town.  That's Ashfield, where my father's WASP family lived for 150 years or so.  I'm pretty much related to everyone there, because, well, there's no one else there.  And my branch of the family has been away for a couple generations.  So not only are Ashfielders WASPy, but very very literally "inbred", too.  

    And dumb as fence-posts we are, too!  For all those 150 years, while we milked cows and chopped wood, they called us "hayseeds" and "swamp Yankees".  Because we're inbred and stupid WASP hayseeds.  Now scroll your cursor over the map and you'll see the results in each town pop up.  Scroll it over Ashfield.  See how them stupid WASP swamp Yankee hicks voted in 2010.

    In denouncing ethnic bigotry, it really isn't that great an idea to engage in it yourself.

    Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?

    by ActivistGuy on Tue Oct 02, 2012 at 10:40:11 PM PDT

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    •  You're certainly right about the P (6+ / 0-)

      I would suggest, however, that the term WASP is losing its currency.  Yes, there are absolutely still pockets where the old-money Protestants look down on the Irish Catholics.  But for most people these days, WASP means little more than "generic white person."

      In some ways, it's a big improvement over anti-Catholic bigotry, or anti-Polish, anti-Continental.  We used to divide up "white people" in a lot of different ways.  But it tends also to highlight the ongoing, in some cases intensified bigotry against people of color and of non-Christians.  

      You know, probably a good thing that fewer Christians consider the Pope the anti-christ -- not such a good thing that they're still antisemitic and islamophobic.  

      However, we're about to re-elect a man whose father was  ethnically black, so I see progress.

      Wholly-owned subsidiaries are people, too, my friend.

      by deminva on Wed Oct 03, 2012 at 03:42:29 AM PDT

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      •  Some people have to segregate the people (6+ / 0-)

        around them into groups because they are groupists or groupies and can't recognize individuals as individuals.  I suspect it's like not being able to see that an oak tree is different from an elm. They're just not evergreens, except in the South where oaks are green year-round.
        Anyway, groupists hone in on gross similarities, which they can see.  They are dependent on superficial optics -- what things look like and similarities they have in common.
        That's why the "tell" about Scott Warren is his directive to "just look at her." Appearance is what he goes by and so do many other people.  They can't help it.  It's the only route by which information gets into their brains. It's where their ideas come from. It's why identity is so important to them. They need a picture to validate the person.
        I suspect it's a cognitive deficit. Oliver Sachs, the renowned psychiatrist, has recently identified what he calls "face blindness" in himself.  He's suddenly become aware that he does not remember/recognize other people's facial features. I don't know whether a picture ID would help him. All his story tells me is that there are lots of disabilities of which we are not aware. (It took me about sixty years to notice that my mother did not recognize images of herself. She had lots of pictures of herself and those were generically identified, but she could not pick herself out of a group picture. And she didn't recognize herself in a video, only her voice).
        Does Scott Brown have cognitive deficits? No doubt.  What makes him different from a person like Oliver Sachs is that he's also mean. Brown's mingy.

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        by hannah on Wed Oct 03, 2012 at 05:39:49 AM PDT

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    •  You are correct (3+ / 0-)
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      and I take away the WASP bigotry.  That is not the way to engage in any debate.  Thanks for pointing my flaws as a passionate person who sometimes does not allow the shut off switch to work for my mouth and my fingers.  

      Now that I have made my apology.  So what is Scott Brown?  I can only think that he is someone who is a racist and someone who is totally ignorant of his surroundings.  Religious beliefs are ones own of course, but to degrade someone because of ethnic heritage, real or unreal, seems to me against all that religious teachings are about.   For far too long in America, we have seen that and as you pointed out, I am not as clean as the driven snow in that regard.  I am owning my short comings and my failure to try to make a point without bringing one's heritage into the picture.  You state that Scott Brown sent his daughter to Boston College and raised 5 million for the Nuns, perhaps they could school him on how to make an apology to end this kind of rhetoric.  One can only hope that someone will call him out on this as you did with me, and appeal to his sense of decensy.

      •  Brown pretends to be Catholic (1+ / 0-)
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        Religious/ethnic (tribal, but not in the Indian sense) politics still play a role in Massachusetts politics.  Brown is basically a WASP, religiously an evangelical protestant, but I think most people here think he's Roman Catholic and probably of Irish descent.  That wins votes in the reddest parts of the state, which include many areas around Wrentham, his old constituency.

        Brown's campaign, however, is disgusting.  That ad claiming falsely that Warren lied about her ethnicity is running constantly on Boston TV.  It's the centerpiece of the campaign.  No issues, just racial dogwhistles.  Either Warren's an "injun", and thus not to be trusted (by his base), or she's an "injun-lover" and that could be even worse.  He's not aiming at the undecided middle. He's targeting his campaign at the white-flight suburbs and worst elements of the last century's battles.

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