Skip to main content

View Diary: Great news! Ann is asserting herself! (159 comments)

Comment Preferences

  •  It really must be a disturbing discontinuity to (25+ / 0-)

    see the man who you and everyone around you has always deferred to, being spoken to (and criticised) as if on equal terms.  They do live whithin a highly structured social organization in which he has a high standing in his home, his work and, of course, his church.

    She volunteered the comment that her biggest worry was his mental health.  The possibility that she was thinking (or sensing) her own fragility as well, especially given her other outbursts, is hardly playing at long-distance psychological analysis.

    It's interesting that he's choosing what's comfortable.  Now, he is rarely doing rallies and constantly doing fundraisers which it seems safe to assume are much more comfortable for him.

    Paul Ryan was the most visibly obsequious courter during June and July (he did win best brown-noser in his high school).  It was constantly reported that Mitt was energized by having him around.  Whatever logic the selection of Ryan may have followed, it seems likely that Mitt just plain liked how Ryan made him feel.

    But now Ryan has visibly soured on him.  He tried to campaign with Ryan.  They were supposed to do a three-day bus tour together but I believe it kind of ended up being only a couple of joint appearances on the second day.  So, it will be informative to see if he tries any more joint appearances.

    I don't think it's a stretch to suppose that he is having a hard time keeping his spirits up and that Ann knows the only way to keep him positive is to maintain the cocoon around him which protects him from bumping up against his obvious social inabilities and discomforts.

    Both of these people seem to be confronting some elementary and personal new experiences of the give and take of informal social interactions in a democratically inclined polity.

    •  This strikes me as a central matter: (7+ / 0-)
      Both of these people seem to be confronting some elementary and personal new experiences of the give and take of informal social interactions in a democratically inclined polity.
      Their lives can be counted in years, but their curiosity and any flexible sense of themselves in reality seems to have been  truncated very early.
      •  Sure is wierdly worded, though! (7+ / 0-)

        OTH, I can't seem to come up with anything clearer right now.  It needs the second sentence of the first paragraph about the formal hierarchies of their family, religion and business.

        More speculatively, it is possible that his inability to deal flexibly with others has interacted with this social bubble to create a doubly protective shell.

        For instance, the story is that he has to be served first at family dinners because he can't wait for the grandchildren to be sorted out and, in fact, finishes eating before everyone else gets served and sits down together (something of the same insensitivity as in the famous Shamus story).

        It sounds like all his business dealings were based on ridiculously favorable conditions for him.  The stories seem to always include some special arrangements where the other parties have to compensate him for any losses.

        It's as if he was always a chosen prince.  He could have been considered very high status by those he dealt with, first because of his father and then also for his status in the church and his accumulating business success and then, after the olympics, his participation in the government.  If so, then when he proved, through sheer nervous energy, to be oblivious to common practice, they would go along with his demands.

        So he (and Ann) live floating strangely above the web of human relations.

        (Further strangeness: It is possible (there's another diary on this somewhere) that he, in fact, has five wives.  There are four women reported in his 2010 tax returns as having received something like $20,000 between them as household help.  All of them apparently live in his various homes, have no other employment and have been with him for a long time.  This is, as I say, speculative.)

        •  A strong exploitative strain runs through his acts (0+ / 0-)

          You note:

          It sounds like all his business dealings were based on ridiculously favorable conditions for him.  The stories seem to always include some special arrangements where the other parties have to compensate him for any losses.
          MBAs have been taught to govern their activities precisely this way, and this man seems to not only have understood that but also in an almost 'idiot savant' way to have extended it further to insulate not only his entrances but his exits.

          Free of any feeling about the actual living people involved in the companies he has destroyed, his process of looking for tax loopholes and areas of profit could have made him acutely aware of just where to put the knife, and precisely how to hide his activities with no regard for anyone but himself.

          Meantime, the language I noted in a previous post struck me as psychologically acute, whether or not you have read in that area. Elementary and personal developments depend on the ability to think, which can happen only by learning from experience, especially in a person's earliest years. It's as if, without that, he can in fact learn only from the two-dimensional sort of experience numbers and dollars offer.

          •  I have not 'read in that area' but thank you. (1+ / 0-)
            Recommended by:
            Creosote

            Just for my own thinking, I will try once more to summarize my sense of this guy.

            He has a protective outer shell consisting of a patriarchical family, an unnaturally powerful position in the business/government world and a princely role in the hierarchy of his church.

            This shelters an, at least softly, sociopathic personal shell which can not, but does not have to, interact with others as equals.

    •  And She Knows That If Mitt Somehow Wins... (4+ / 0-)

      ...the two of them will spend the next four years hearing common riff-raff criticize their behavior. If he loses, they can go back inside the sycophantic cocoon. Not a difficult choice, really.

      On the Internet, nobody knows if you're a dog... but everybody knows if you're a jackass.

      by stevemb on Wed Oct 03, 2012 at 03:52:00 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Imagine the horror (1+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        myboo

        of having the peasants second guess every little thing, how much you spend on redecorating your house, how many vacations you take and how much they cost.

        How much it costs to board your dancing horse.

        She isn't well suited to all that.

        I'm not at all convinced she's aware of it though.

        Supporter: "Senator, you have the vote of every thinking person!" Adlai Stevenson: "That's not enough, madam, we need a majority!"

        by Scott Wooledge on Wed Oct 03, 2012 at 08:11:05 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

Subscribe or Donate to support Daily Kos.

  • Recommended (126)
  • Community (53)
  • Republicans (35)
  • Environment (33)
  • 2016 (31)
  • Culture (30)
  • Memorial Day (30)
  • Bernie Sanders (26)
  • Elections (26)
  • Media (24)
  • Spam (21)
  • Climate Change (21)
  • GOP (20)
  • Education (20)
  • Labor (20)
  • Civil Rights (20)
  • Trans-Pacific Partnership (18)
  • Economy (17)
  • Law (17)
  • Barack Obama (17)
  • Click here for the mobile view of the site