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  •  yay public schools (7+ / 0-)

    But that said, if my parents hadn't sent me to a private (Catholic) middle school (in the days of Hunthausen and liberation theology, granted) I doubt I would have survived middle school, and I would have learned and internalized some terrible stuff -- the middle schools in our town ran 1500 students and so near as I could tell from the fate of my former classmates, they were meccas of bullying which acclimated people to the machine.  This can be good or bad.  For me it would have been pretty much it.

    Agree with your sentiments but when I consider if I were a parent (which will never be) I know I'd probably choose the best I could afford for her or him, public or private.  And like you, I'd hate the groupthink smugness in any event.

    ...j'ai découvert que tout le malheur des hommes vient d'une seule chose, qui est de ne savoir pas demeurer en repos dans une chambre.

    by jessical on Wed Oct 03, 2012 at 07:56:24 AM PDT

    •  appreciate your honesty (6+ / 0-)

      the most important tool I want my kid to have about bullying is the ability to recognize it.
      and unfortunately, "liberal theology" is now a non sequitor

    •  I barely survived the nuns. (3+ / 0-)
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      ...but I hear they don't have so many of them any more in the Catholic schools. But seriously, I wrestled with this, especially with my son. My daughter did perfectly fine in public schools and would not have had it any other way. But one day I happened to ride the subway (DC) with a bunch of students from the high school I had almost sent my son to and (though I'm sure they were lovely children) the conversations I overheard appalled me. They were talking about classmates and bashing them for not being rich or for not having grand houses. I realized that if I had scraped the dough to send my son there, he would have probably been a pariah. Now it's possible that I could have just happened to be sitting near the Rmoney contingent but no thank you anyway.

      •  We all have our anecdotes- (4+ / 0-)
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        I went to private school, and most of the nuns were great.  When we hung out with kids from the local public school, we were often amazed that so many of them were so mean to each other.  Bullying in my school did not happen, because we got the message early on that we were expected to support each other and treat each other well, and we did.

        So does my experience negate yours?  I don't think so.  And neither of our stories does more than describe a specific experience.  Neither experience should lead to a conclusion that one type of school is always better or worse.  

        I'm not a fan of telling other people how to live their lives or raise their kids.  People make choices for a variety of reasons; most of those reasons are valid to them.  I think respecting the choices of others is a big part of being a liberal.  YMMV.

        •  I have to tell you... (0+ / 0-)

          I'm kind of offended by your post. Not trying to make a big deal of it, but I have read it over about five and six times and I want to say, as respectfully as possible, that you seem to have made a lot of false assumptions about my intentions if you think I am a "fan" of telling people what to do or raise their kids.

          •  Sorry, that part was not (1+ / 0-)
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            directed at you or your intentions.  You said nothing about other people's choices.
            It does seem, however, that the diarist is taking a position on how other people make choices about raising their kids.
            So it was a response to you only in terms of out different experiences, mixed with a general statement about choices.
            Sorry that it came off the wrong way.

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