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  •  I've been looking hard outside the bench. (2+ / 0-)
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    elfling, mffarrow

    I find it supremely ironic, in fact, that the one job offer I got took me BACK to the bench.

    The problem is that every 'non-bench' employer I've talked to, from patent review, to scientific policy, to liason, to QC, to museum exhibit developer...they don't just want a Ph.D. in the sciences.  They want someone with extensive experience in THAT JOB.  Even my previous industry experience was not enough to get over the hump.

    My Ph.D. wasn't judged as worthless just for academic science jobs.  It was judged worthless, by itself, for everything.  It's the really old saw: how can you get experience without first getting a job to GET experience?

    •  And of course, jobs that don't require that Ph.D. (1+ / 0-)
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      won't be offered to you, because obviously you're overqualified.

      And getting hired in a STEM field can take months at best, because they are so high friction.

      So people take the Ph.D. off their resumes and go to work for Starbucks to get health insurance and then hope for something better... but every month you work at Starbucks makes you less employable as a scientist.

      Fry, don't be a hero! It's not covered by our health plan!

      by elfling on Thu Oct 04, 2012 at 08:39:51 AM PDT

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      •  And that truly is where careers... (2+ / 0-)
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        elfling, 1world

        ...and sometimes lives, go to die.  Starbucks health insurance is not that great if you are a barista - you'll quickly go bankrupt if you have any sort of chronic illness.  And as you said, the longer you are without "real" work, the more likely you are to have that scarlet "B" tattooed to your chest the rest of your life.  If you have a spouse with a stable career, that's not great but survivable.  If your spouse depends on YOUR stable career for support, it just screws you both.

        So it's a catch-22, which is why I am so bitter.  But I didn't want to derail the thread completely. :/

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