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  •  I think that if (1+ / 0-)
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    he continues to perform the way he did last night, the voters are going to have a much lesser opinion of the President. It is one thing to put out one bad performance, it is quite another to keep producing bad performances.
     And will vote him out at least nationally.  It is possible IMO that Ohio/Wisconsin/Nevada may still vote for Obama even if he loses the popular vote narrowly.

    And yes he can easily lose the debate in foreign policy, e.g. if he doesn't effectively rebut the charges on the embassy attack in Libya.  And given that in my opinion, the administration really screwed the pooch with the explanation of what happened, that isn't going to be that easy.  And unless President Obama brings up the initial Romney comments before that attack and hammers him on that (the kind of stuff that Obama had great difficulty in doing in debate 1), it is very easy to see Romney winning that argument.

    The idea that the Obama somehow cannot lose the debate on foreign policy is the same kind of assumption that his supporters made last night going into the debate,

    WI-8 independent. Very reluctantly for Obama but support Tammy Baldwin with a bit more enthusiasm. Strongly opposed recall of Gov. Walker.

    by WiscIndy on Thu Oct 04, 2012 at 08:16:08 PM PDT

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    •  I agree that a mediocre performance next time (1+ / 0-)
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      would be likely to erode his support at the margins, but I think it's overly bold to predict it would cost him a popular vote lead.

      Formerly Pan on Swing State Project

      by MichaelNY on Thu Oct 04, 2012 at 08:20:33 PM PDT

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      •  I will admit you did make a lot of good points (1+ / 0-)
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        though, in fairness. But seriously, Romney has said so many idiotic things on foreign policy and Obama has such a clear and obvious record of achievement, it would be much harder for him to "win" a debate on that than on domestic policy, given that unemployment is still high and the ACA is still not that popular.

        Formerly Pan on Swing State Project

        by MichaelNY on Thu Oct 04, 2012 at 08:27:15 PM PDT

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        •  Style over substance (1+ / 0-)
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          I'm now coming to the conclusion that is what killed Obama yesterday.  After reading the transcript, it was much closer when you read the transcript that seeing the debate live.

          Also don't forget that Bush was considered a favorite over Kerry in the foreign policy debate in 2004 (debate 1) and Kerry just crushed him.  

          WI-8 independent. Very reluctantly for Obama but support Tammy Baldwin with a bit more enthusiasm. Strongly opposed recall of Gov. Walker.

          by WiscIndy on Thu Oct 04, 2012 at 08:41:01 PM PDT

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