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  •  That's not how I interpret the data . . . (13+ / 0-)

    I read it to mean that liberals accounted for a smaller share of the respondents, so the pollsters weren't able to attach a margin of error to those who did respond to the poll.

    This seems plausible if liberal Dems accounted for a smaller share of the viewing audience.

    Aside from political junkies, if you've already made up your mind, are liberal, and sick of the campaign, perhaps you watch another show instead of the debates (or do something else).

    The viewing audience is not representative of the electorate.  That is my take away.

    •  Did you read page 8? (8+ / 0-)

      No.  Liberals.  Were.  Sampled.

      Not "fewer."  None.

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      by Seneca Doane on Thu Oct 04, 2012 at 03:07:43 AM PDT

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      •  you've presented no evidence for that (2+ / 0-)
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        N/A doesn't mean zero. We can tell from the reported MOEs that N/A doesn't mean zero.

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        by HudsonValleyMark on Thu Oct 04, 2012 at 03:32:27 AM PDT

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      •  are dems not "liberals"? Guys let us accept the (0+ / 0-)

        fact. Obama blew a lead here...only hoping it's not too bad....
        I mean Look at this for example...
        When Romney said I'd  cover pre-existing conditions, Obama should simply have said..I've already done that,
        --Kids would be on their parents insurance?
         I have   already done that?...and follow up with
         Do you want to replace ObamaCare with Obamacare?..

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        by tuma on Thu Oct 04, 2012 at 11:42:37 AM PDT

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    •  you are correct (1+ / 0-)
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      Even in the 2008 exit poll, there were 22% liberal, 34% conservative. So, in a sample of about 400 voters, the liberal segment easily could fall below 100, ergo MOE > 10%, ergo not reported.

      The sample probably isn't great, but it's a lot better than some people are construing it to be.

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      by HudsonValleyMark on Thu Oct 04, 2012 at 03:30:50 AM PDT

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      •  It's not 'a lot' better (0+ / 0-)

        You're forgetting the other bits here: there were not enough people in the Northeast, the West, the Midwest, or the Northwest to report numbers on those, but there were plenty in the South. The only place that Romney is winning.

        There weren't enough non-white people to report numbers on them even as a single bloc. Even though non-Hispanic white people are only 64% of the population. Judging from the sampling error, if I'm doing my math right, they had somewhere around 30-40 (ten percent!) non-white people.

        There weren't enough people under 50, for Christ's sake. Indeed, again if my math is right, they had fewer than 70 people under the age of 50.

        The poll does give some information, but the fact that CNN said 'our poll says that Americans loved Mitt last night' rather than 'our poll says that a sampling of Americans that are over 50% Southern, 90% white, 60% male, and 80% over 50 loved Mitt last night' moves it from 'crappy polling' into outright lying.

        And that's a serious shame. Because some of us would really like to be dealing with reality right now.

    •  Yep!! that's me... (0+ / 0-)
      Aside from political junkies, if you've already made up your mind, are liberal, and sick of the campaign, perhaps you watch another show instead of the debates (or do something else)....
      ..didn't watch it...

      "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross." Sinclair Lewis, 1935 --Talk of foresight--

      by tuma on Thu Oct 04, 2012 at 11:38:19 AM PDT

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