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  •  I want to see some of the national polls . . . (4+ / 0-)
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    Obama has the ball within a yard or so of the 50 yard line.  All that he has to do is cross that threshold.  Actually, he doesn't really even have to do that, he just has to cross the 50 percent threshold in enough states to get the necessary number of electoral votes.

    Obama can lose the debates and still win the election.  We should have a better gauge on this in a few days.  It will be interesting to see if support breaks towards Romney.  How does this impact preferences of undecided voters?  Does it have any impact on leaners and voters who are already committed to a candidate?  We won't know for a few days.

    Overall I thought Obama did fine.  Realistically there probably wasn't any way that he could put Romney away tonight.  The only way that Romney could have sunk his campaign was by hanging himself.  I thought the debate was actually kind of boring, frankly.  

    •  Well, I hope their internals show him WELL (2+ / 0-)
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      ahead or the coaching for this debate was way off.

      This, in fact, is what I keep telling myself. His advisors told him to be conservative because his lead was so solid. But, to me, and I loathe saying it because I love this guy:  he stood there and acted as a human punching bag.

      It was unpleasant to watch and I am a hyper-partisan. He allowed himself to be diminished by douchebag Romney. If there is strategy there, I hope to see it in polls not crashing in the coming days.

      •  I thought Mitt was an arrogant bully and a number (7+ / 0-)

        of women are talking about that and not just here. He was quite the loud, blustering bully.

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        by wishingwell on Thu Oct 04, 2012 at 12:00:12 AM PDT

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        •  My partner said the same thing. (2+ / 0-)
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          She had to turn it off she was so disgusted with Romney.

          Have you googled Romney today?

          by fou on Thu Oct 04, 2012 at 12:04:46 AM PDT

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        •  I hope so, wishingwell. I am not one to get (1+ / 0-)
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          pessimistic normally. My husband--former Republican and current Obama supporter-- really got me down as did my true blue Iowa Dad constantly texting me about what he saw as epic fail.

          Will either vote Romney? No chance. But I trust these guys and my own gut that this was damaging. I expect the head to heads to tighten up and our swingstate position to erode a bit.

          I don't think this was fatal, but it's definitely going to be a setback. It sucks. I've cried and drank too much wine tonight, but I'm a realist. It was a horrible performance.

          •  I had to remain calm as a friend called me all (0+ / 0-)

            upset and crying and drinking too much over this debate.  Things will look better after much sleep and the booze wears off and the sun comes out and another day begins. Or it will look better in a few days or another week,I do believe that.

            But my dad taught me not to overract and settle down and stay calm.  I am a very emotional person who would always get dramatic, overreact, get emotional, and cry and Dad helped me in that glad he did as he has been gone a while now.

            I also think being a therapist and that training and experience keeps me calmer on the outside than I am on the inside most of the time.

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            by wishingwell on Thu Oct 04, 2012 at 01:21:46 AM PDT

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      •  Coaching wasn't probably off.. (1+ / 0-)
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        as much as desperate Mitt embraced Mass legacy (which he never disavowed).

        To be honest, the Obama team and the RWNJs both preferred extreme right wing Mitt who ran away (or scarcely mentioned) Romneycare and his Mass. past.

        Romney can be hard to debate prep against since he will lie in a second and he literally has had positions across the political spectrum.  Additionally, he avoids specific prescriptions on his proposals, so can get away with "magic" policy proposals (see tax cuts).

        Obama was gaffe-free.  Obama was calm and presidential.  

        The next debates he can now freely challenge Mitt without the MSM implying he had become "rattled".  Finally next debates play to Obama's strengths and Mitt's weaknesses.  

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