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  •  The Syrian regime is full of idiots (12+ / 0-)

    Turkey is not a rag-tag bunch of under-fed and under-equipt military defectors and enthusiastic but untrained rebels nipping at your margins. It has a modern well-funded and trained military and more than its share of western educated and trained generals who would be more than happy to use that force if provoked to do so. That, and politicians who are smart enough to take full advantage of the Syrians stupidity to maximum effect when the smoke clears.

    Bonus for Turkey, western powers that would never, ever get involved with going at Syria themselves would be more than happy to back the Turks being the edge of the sword. NATO flag, Turkish blade.

    If Turkey is going in now, or if not now, is well on its way to being goaded by further Syrian actions into going in, Assad better have a ticket to Paris or God Knows Where and boxes stuffed with treasure to finance his life in exile ready. It would be very easy to see Turkey systematically bombarding Syrian military positions, or, far worse for the Syrian regime, using it's air force to take out the Syrian attack helicopters and aging fighters in the air and armor on the ground, Assad's regime simply won't last very long.

    Between murmurs that Iran's economy is starting to falter, and this news, Mitt Romney's victory lap from the debate might be over sooner rather than later.

    I don't see how you top potentially adding Assad finding himself on the scrapheap of history, with US aid but without US forces directly involved, and teaser stories that there might be a ticking clock on the regime in Iran due to the added harsh economic sanctions placed on the regime, a month out from an election.

    Obama can credibly claim that his foreign policy choices, in stark contrast to the NeoCons that gave us the Iraq War standing with Romney itching to get US troops engaged in more ground and air wars, has paid dividend after dividend rather than get us bogged down in more wars.

    I am from the Elizabeth Warren and Darcy Burner wing of the Democratic Party

    by LeftHandedMan on Thu Oct 04, 2012 at 01:03:24 AM PDT

    •  Not sure NATO will jump in so quickly (5+ / 0-)

      Depends on the Syrian response. If they are foolish enough to persist, that could be another story.

      What about my Daughter's future?

      by koNko on Thu Oct 04, 2012 at 01:48:14 AM PDT

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    •  For example (7+ / 0-)

      I would not exactly call this a declaration of war by NATO.

      The Guardian

      In an interview with the Guardian on Monday, the Nato secretary general, Anders Fogh Rasmussen, said the alliance was committed to the defence of its key south-eastern pivot, Turkey. But he emphasised that there was scant prospect of Nato military intervention in Syria.

      "Syria is a very, very complex society," he said. "Foreign military interventions could have broader impacts."

      The statement issued after Nato's meeting in Brussels demanded an immediate halt to "aggressive acts" against Turkey.

      The shelling from Syria "constitutes a cause of greatest concern for, and is strongly condemned by, all allies", Nato ambassadors said in a statement, after they held a rare late-night meeting at Turkey's request to discuss the incident.

      "The alliance continues to stand by Turkey and demands the immediate cessation of such aggressive acts against an ally, and urges the Syrian regime to put an end to flagrant violations of international law," the statement said.

      What about my Daughter's future?

      by koNko on Thu Oct 04, 2012 at 02:35:10 AM PDT

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      •  BBC backs up this take (2+ / 0-)
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        OllieGarkey, koNko

        I was listening earlier and there is a fair amount of circumspection in the statements coming from Turkey and NATO. Russia is pressuring what's left of Syria's regime to guarantee this won't happen again (for whatever that's worth).
        It seems all actors are doing their best to keep this from escalating into a war.
        I think this diary title is overstating the case pretty wildly.

        R-Money/R-Ayn, the ENRON Ticket, is not a campaign; it's a hostile takeover bid.

        by kamarvt on Thu Oct 04, 2012 at 06:45:32 AM PDT

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