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  •  I agree with your post (19+ / 0-)

    I want to add that there's a real risk in acting like an attack dog  during a debate when you're the sitting leader of the free world. It's quite rare that it can be done without you looking like an overbearing, obnoxious guy who will abuse his power. This is why the Vice-Presidential candidate on the ticket (whichever side) is generally tasked with being the attack dog in the equation -- so that the Presidential candidate can look, well, Presidential.

    Romney was already losing altitude with his own base and the GOP of today loves this sort of bombastic firebrand and never more than when they are concerned about their guy losing. We saw this sort of approach with Palin (though, to be fair, she was the VP candidate, so that was her task).

    It's tempting to treat debates like boxing matches or sports matches -- "Our team, Our Team, Our Guy, Our Gal" "Beat 'em up, punch him up, make em eat crow."  But really, do you want our leader to be like this -- aggressive, controlling, smirking, disrespectful? With the challenges of our internal diplomacy, does Romney's argument that he's the guy to bring people together when he browbeats the moderator -- telling him how things are gonna be, does that ring true to you? Just like his argument that the 47% are people who don't pay taxes and don't want to have personal responsibility -- coming from a guy who has accounts in the Cayman Islands... sounds a little bit like an expensive pot calling a cheap pot from Goodwill black. Entitlement? Entitlement depends upon whose defining it.  I could very well make an argument based upon the comments by Romney and his wife, that they feel very entitled.

    I saw lots of material in the debate last night, material which I'm certain the Obama campaign will be exploiting in the coming days. Things like when Romney back-handedly admitted to outsourcing jobs "tax breaks for outsourcers? How can you say that? I must need a new accountant." [paraphrased not an exact quote].  Or, my plan will cover anyone who has maintained insurance with pre-existing conditions. That's not a change, that's the COBRA law that has existed for years and with which no one is happy with because if you cannot afford the COBRA or don't have insurance to begin with, your pre-existing condition can be excluded.

    And, like it or not, there's another risk for Obama in goin' all Obama on Romney in the debate. Like or not, there is racism in America and Black people who choose confrontation are often perceived to be "angry Black people."  It's a very delicate balance and your points, those of Obama choosing to keep his powder dry for a better format debate, Obama permitting Romney to give his team disputable sound bytes could be the very smart move for Obama.

    •  I agree Obama had to err on the side of (8+ / 0-)

      Passive rather than anger, because of his race (unfortunately), and also because he IS the President.  

      Obama's stump speech today rebutted Romney mockingly, with humor, and very effectively.  Some of that would have been welcome last evening, but better late than never.

      We're ALL better off when we're ALL better off!

      by susanWAstate on Thu Oct 04, 2012 at 05:07:43 PM PDT

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    •  I agree (1+ / 0-)
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      and I think that is one reason why incumbent Presidents have historically not done well during the first debate because they have that annoying little problem of needing to maintain a presidential posture. The other guy comes in with really nothing to lose and everything to gain, so they can afford to be a little more aggressive. Although its a very fine line and aggression can really turn people off.  As a black person, I am also very acutely sensitive to the angry black person issue. I have seen it discussed a lot on this site in reference to Obama's debate performance. I am thinking about writing about this issue next, but I haven't exactly figured out how I feel about it yet.  On some level, I know it exists and I agree, but black people in positions of power need to be careful that this perception is not just a backdoor way of subduing us and our voices.  It is a stereotype that sadly we have been branded with, but if we all stayed quiet to avoid the brand, you are effectively silencing us or confusing us on how to act in certain situations, even when a little righteous indignation is warranted.  

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