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  •  So did last night change your mind about Obama? (6+ / 0-)
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    Are you switching your vote to Romney?  Do you know of any of your fellow Obama supporters who said, "well, that's it, I just can't vote for him because he didn't put Romney in a headlock onstage and give him a forced haircut"?

    outside of the Super Concerned Dkos world, not a single Obama supporter I know feels different about the election than they did yesterday morning.  As one friend said, "I made up my mind about this election four years ago".

    I think some perspective is needed.  Last night might give Romney a tiny boost for a few days, but it'll subside because he didn't change anyone's mind.  He probably gave the Obama haters a woody for being all Alpha male on him, but that's pretty much the extent of it.

    •  Did you READ the diary? (1+ / 0-)
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      I wrote:

      "You've got my vote, but unless you do better you won't get my support.  So please, do better."
      To your question:
      not a single Obama supporter I know feels different about the election than they did yesterday morning
      I woke this morning to a friend -- who voted for Obama in 08 -- who said the Romney looked like a moderate he can support.  That the debate made him reconsider Romney.  So your experience and mine differ in terms of the Obama supporters we know.

      "We are the ones we've been waiting for"

      by gossamer on Thu Oct 04, 2012 at 10:02:59 AM PDT

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      •  is your friend not paying attention? (1+ / 0-)
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        Romney is brutally inconsistent with his positions, depending on the audience and last night was a prime example of it.  He went all Matt Taibbi on the big banks, pretty much endorsed Obamacare, except he didn't, though he did, but didn't.

        I suspect your friend is an outlier and will hear/see something regarding Romney in the coming days to realize he's hardly a moderate.  

        Just remind him/her about the 47% comments.

      •  ... (1+ / 0-)
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        Then you and your friend are ignorant.  This diary and your responses if proof that you haven't been paying attention to what the president has been doing or saying throughout his term.

        The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing online commenters that they have anything to say.-- B.F.

        by lcj98 on Thu Oct 04, 2012 at 10:29:01 AM PDT

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        •  What? (0+ / 0-)

          How do you logically say that being critical of his performance in the most important debate of his re-election campaign proves I've not been paying attention to him?  

          How long ago did you join this site?  Oh, you're going to cross your 2-year anniversary in a few months.  Not even a presidential election cycle.

          So, please pardon me if I am comfortable standing on my record of writing a letter to Illinois Senator Barack Obama in 2004 imploring him to run and telling him I'd support him in 2008 if he ran for president (kept a PDF copy and will show it to you if you like).  

          Then I backed him over Hillary, Biden, Kucinich and Edwards in 07-08 -- including criticism people dished out here for it.  

          Then canvassing, phone banking, donating and traveling over a thousand miles of rural highways for his campaign in 08.  

          Phone banking for him in '09 on healthcare reform.  Writing letters on his behalf to my congressional reps - Dem. and Rep. asking for their vote on healthcare reform.

          Stop pretending that 2 years entitles you to enough data to discern what constitutes whether I'm "paying attention" to my 8-year candidate's agenda and campaign.

          "We are the ones we've been waiting for"

          by gossamer on Thu Oct 04, 2012 at 12:05:10 PM PDT

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          •  HAHAHAHAHA... (0+ / 0-)

            His most important debate?  Are you that daft?  He's the incumbent with the lead going into the debates.  How in the hell is the first debate the most important?...  Know what?  Forget it.  Your 8 years of of doing whatever obviously beats my meager two year on DKos because, you know, that's supposed to mean something.  Have fun gnashing, rending and crying in between your vindication or whatever.

            The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing online commenters that they have anything to say.-- B.F.

            by lcj98 on Thu Oct 04, 2012 at 02:15:29 PM PDT

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            •  You still haven't answered the question (0+ / 0-)

              How do you logically say that being critical of his performance ... proves I've not been paying attention to him?  

              "We are the ones we've been waiting for"

              by gossamer on Fri Oct 05, 2012 at 07:50:12 AM PDT

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