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  •  Pattern Math, why (6+ / 0-)

    do you keep reposting the same comment in multiple diaries? I'm not disagreeing with your drive for Medicare for all (single payer supporter here -- everything else is interim band-aids), but why not simply go ahead and diary your full point?

    And what's the basis for your claim that Obama's not "allowed" to say medicare for all? Not allowed by who?

    •  The irony (1+ / 0-)
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      is Romney flips it and says Obamacare for old people?  What's wrong with Obamacare?  Without close to adequate votes for single payer, Obamacare is politically and even economically justified (risk spreading not just among the infirm), but good for the goose is good for the gander.

      It makes the most sense in a debate to defend medicare as medicare and Obamacare as Obamacare.  

      Part of the issue, here, is the right is attacking Obama b/c that's what they do (see, Sununu), but the left, too, is upset that he didn't pander to ourselves.  There's no substantive criticism of Obama from any camp.

      Difficult, difficult, lemon difficult.

      by Loge on Thu Oct 04, 2012 at 12:58:26 PM PDT

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      •  "Without close to adequate votes for single payer" (0+ / 0-)

        True, that. Interim stepping-stones as well as interim band-aids. And you're right -- the goal is to transform Obamacare into Medicare for all, not Medicare into Obamacare.

        My substantive criticism is that I wish he'd done last night what he's doing today. Oh, and Diebold, election fraud, campaign finance reform, prosecutions for torture and high treason, running the loobyists out of Washington (went back to correct my spelling and decided I liked "loobyists")... I don;t want much ;-)

    •  so why didnt he say it? (0+ / 0-)

      because he had an off nite?
      why didnt he say it yesterday?

      the system is rigged.

      the moolah$ decide who can run and what they can say.

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