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    mamamorgaine

    And I appreciate that people don't have an infinite amount of time and resources to explore their options, if any.  This is simply a discussion about how people who do have options end up screwing things up for everyone else.

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    by Troubadour on Fri Oct 05, 2012 at 04:11:15 PM PDT

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    •  I left NYC in part because of the (1+ / 0-)
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      schools.  I had a choice, to some extent, and I chose my kids over others' kids.  I don't think too many people would do otherwise.

      I suppose its possible that the aggregate benefit to the universe would be less had I left the kids in shitty schools, but I doubt it.  instead, aggregate benefit to others is probably unchanged while my kids will do substantially better in their upper middle class suburban public school.  if that's the case, it would've been pareto inefficient to do anything other than what I did.

      •  you see the collective action problem, though, (1+ / 0-)
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        right?  You're asking me to make my kids' lives shittier, and all for something that won't happen unless a lot of other people make the same decision that I do.  It's a classic collective action problem, and you can't possibly expect people to do something that is neither rational nor something can reasonably be expected to have a positive impact on others in the absence of others making the same decision.

        IOW: you can't persuade others to do this; you can only legislatively require people to sacrifice their children's education for others.

        •  What do you want to hear? (0+ / 0-)

          That you're absolved of responsibility?  Every corporate and Mafia scumbag insists they do it all for their family.  It's just a matter of how far you're willing to take the hypocrisy.

          Everything there is to know about the GOP: They're the Bad Guys.

          by Troubadour on Fri Oct 05, 2012 at 05:12:45 PM PDT

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