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  •  hero, hoagie, et al (3+ / 0-)
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    I grew up on Long Island - where it was heros - and I'm sure, as it was pointed out, that it was a bastardized from gyro, but came to be known as any sub.

    I went to school upstate NY - and there it's always "sub" - to me, that's the original generic name - and I also always figured it was because of the shape.  So I figure, "sub" is the original, and the others are all the same sandwich more or less, just with different names.

    So I get "hero" - I get "sub" - and I even get "grinder" .... but I've now lived in the Philly suburbs going on 20 years and I have no friggin clue, still, where the name "hoagie" comes from.  The name drives me nuts, still, particularly because of the Philly accent I usually hear from people saying the word.  Far as I can tell, "hoagie" is just a sub. I never hear anyone call them "subs" around here, even the most basic sandwich - except for me.

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    by AdamW on Sat Oct 06, 2012 at 11:17:50 AM PDT

    •  The likelihood is that the term "hoagie" (4+ / 0-)
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      is derived from Hog Island, between the Delaware and Schuykill Rivers in Philadelphia. That is pretty much accepted lore here in Philly.  The sandwiches were originally known as 'hoggies."

      In terms of "grinders" I agree with the Diarist's description except my experience in Philadelphia that these are always toasted/heated.

      •  I believe you are correct (3+ / 0-)
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        Dartagnan, old mark, henlesloop

        I should have included a paragraph on the origins of the term "Hoagie" in this diary...but I was hungry when I wrote it and cut a corner.

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        by Keith930 on Sat Oct 06, 2012 at 12:45:18 PM PDT

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        •  Well, I'm hungry for one right now... (0+ / 0-)

          sadly for me, it's 6:30 AM...but I know what's for lunch...;)

           House special Italian, large, with extra tomato and hot peppers...

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          by old mark on Sun Oct 07, 2012 at 03:24:57 AM PDT

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