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  •  Realize it's another topic but you say (2+ / 0-)
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    GAS, Troubadour
    You also seem to have forgotten that, during the 2008 primary, Obama moved from hard-left positions to left-of-center to center to right-of-center, to the consternation of MANY here, in his quest to attract voters
    I would remember that. One thing that struck me then was how much he did not do that, how much he did not shift positions too woo or please.
    Yet you use big letters for the MANY here so we can't both be correct and you sound pretty sure that you are

    I agree he is not a great debater, though he gets better when there are fewer involved. Early primaries he was weakest. He did okay against Hillary, as good as anyone could. She is the best.
    It is not his strength but it is not his weakness either...

    I was pretty shocked by reaction to last debate. Obama was not that good
    but I thought Mitt was horrible. He lied, he talked fast, looked strangely hyped
    So many lies.
    But then I thought Palin's convention speech was awful. Well delivered but a pack of lies, distortions and insults. Pundits swooned, even on msnbc.
    mitt was not so well delivered with blatant lies.

    And he won?
    I have trouble scoring lies equally with true things.
    I thought mitt was horrible

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