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  •  Exactly. (2+ / 0-)
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    elwior, Troubadour

    In 2004 I met a Vietnam vet who preferred Clark but said he'd vote for Kerry in the primaries because the public wasn't ready for a general. No amount of logic could dissuade him--he knew he was right. ...of course he ended up admitting I was right.

    To this day I still say that everyone not behind Clark should be slapped; and blamed for the extra 4 years Bush got, (not withstanding that Kerry really had more votes).

    The fact is that the way the media wrote off Clark is exactly parallel to the second main point of your diary.

    •  Great point. (0+ / 0-)

      I was a Clark supporter too, and was dumbfounded by the attitude of a lot of people toward him.  He had the clear potential to electorally annihilate Bush, he was eloquent and courageous, and had brought together a diverse and energetic coalition, but the media just made up reasons out of thin air to savage him and Democrats just nodded their heads to it like zombies.  I knew we had lost the initiative the moment we nominated Kerry.  

      Everything there is to know about the GOP: They're the Bad Guys.

      by Troubadour on Sat Oct 06, 2012 at 03:42:30 PM PDT

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      •  Amen. (0+ / 0-)

        I was a Clark supporter, too.  Broke my heart when he stood down.  For all the reasons you and others here have stated.

        I'm late reading this whole thread of comments, but had to put my 2 cents in about General Wesley K. Clark!

        I would rather spend my life searching for truth than live a single day within the comfort of a lie. ~ John Victor Ramses

        by KayCeSF on Tue Oct 09, 2012 at 02:56:45 PM PDT

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