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  •  May I take a contrary viewpoint? (5+ / 0-)

    Absentee ballots make it harder to commit the kind of wholesale vote-counting fraud that I believe took place with the use of electronic voting machines such as the ones used by Diebold in 2004 Ohio.

    My biggest concern is that Republicans will commit wholesale vote-counting fraud.  I'm certain that Karl Rove and his followers have no qualms about cheating wherever they can.

    -4.75, -5.33 Cheney 10/05/04: "I have not suggested there is a connection between Iraq and 9/11."

    by sunbro on Sun Oct 07, 2012 at 09:13:03 AM PDT

    •  Except when they just shitcan them! (2+ / 0-)
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      which, as I've heard, some election riggers have done in the past...

      I guess it comes down to where and who.

      Rural counties in FL and OH? Probably oughtta arrange to vote in person if you can, and only vote absentee if you have no choice.

      "Ronald Reagan is DEAD! His policies live on but we're doing something about THAT!"

      by leftykook on Sun Oct 07, 2012 at 09:26:07 AM PDT

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      •  Well, I'd like a study done on vote-counting. (5+ / 0-)

        I'd like to compare the incidence of vote-counting fraud using regular ballots, electronic ballots, versus absentee ballots.

        We should know more about the probability of vote-counting fraud occurring in each of these cases, and we should work to eliminate both vote-counting fraud (and voter suppression) where and when they are likely to occur.

        We as a democracy have a vested interest in keeping elections valid and effective as the Founding Fathers envisioned....a true reflection of the will of the electorate.

        -4.75, -5.33 Cheney 10/05/04: "I have not suggested there is a connection between Iraq and 9/11."

        by sunbro on Sun Oct 07, 2012 at 09:36:11 AM PDT

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        •  There are too many forces who want to keep control (2+ / 0-)
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          of the process itself by allowing certain confusions. I bellieve we have reached a point where our votes are pretty much not protected, and our democracy is at risk.
          Bain company is part of the vote counting process!  Who controls the electronic machines, the history is not good.  Military votes are lost or never counted or even sent. Ballots are intentionally made obtuse, look at the one that was recently posted by a DKos member in Ohio.

          The least that could be done is to have a Federal Holiday to vote for President and a standard format for the candidates for the office.

          •  There definitely should be early voting (1+ / 0-)
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            including weekend and night time voting for everyone. I'm not sure how they can do standard formats exactly since different people qualify in different states to be on the ballot. One of the main problems, I think, is that elections are  state controlled. I suppose one would need a constitutional amendment to make all voting days and hours uniform and have the same candidates for national elections in all states.

            But the limitations on voting are ridiculous and getting worse each year. Hopefully, Democrats will take back some of those state houses, like mine, which are trying to suppress votes, instead of protecting your right to vote.

            You can't scare me, I'm sticking to the Union - Woody Guthrie

            by sewaneepat on Sun Oct 07, 2012 at 11:30:59 AM PDT

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